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NateS
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by NateS » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:34 pm
The Choker wrote:NateS wrote:It is Economics 101 that whenever there is not a floor on minimum wages reasonably consistent with the minimum cost of food, shelter and clothing, businesses are enabled to engage in cut-throat bidding for the consumers' dollar by passing on the loss to the workers with no diminishment in profits to the businesses.
Nate
Ooooh, ooooh. You just made up some bullcrap.
ECON 101? You won't find that crap about "cutthroat bidding passing loses to workers" in any college textbook in use today
Myth and Measurement
by David Card & Alan B. Krueger
David Card and Alan B. Krueger have already made national news with their pathbreaking research on the minimum wage. Here they present a powerful new challenge to the conventional view that higher minimum wages reduce jobs for low-wage workers. In a work that has important implications for public policy as well as for the direction of economic research, the authors put standard economic theory to the test, using data from a series of recent episodes, including the 1992 increase in New Jersey's minimum wage, the 1988 rise in California's minimum wage, and the 1990-91 increases in the federal minimum wage. In each case they present a battery of evidence showing that increases in the minimum wage lead to increases in pay, but no loss in jobs.
A distinctive feature of Card and Krueger's research is the use of empirical methods borrowed from the natural sciences, including comparisons between the "treatment" and "control" groups formed when the minimum wage rises for some workers but not for others. In addition, the authors critically reexamine the previous literature on the minimum wage and find that it, too, lacks support for the claim that a higher minimum wage cuts jobs. Finally, the effects of the minimum wage on family earnings, poverty outcomes, and the stock market valuation of low-wage employers are documented. Overall, this book calls into question the standard model of the labor market that has dominated economists' thinking on the minimum wage. In addition, it will shift the terms of the debate on the minimum wage in Washington and in state legislatures throughout the country.
Sorry you missed it.
Nate
Central sleep apnea AHI 62.6 pre-VPAP. Now 0 to 1.3
Present Rx: EPAP: 8; IPAPlo:11; IPAPHi: 23; PSMin: 3; PSMax: 15
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." —Groucho Marx
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NateS
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by NateS » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:45 pm
NateS wrote:The Choker wrote:NateS wrote:It is Economics 101 that whenever there is not a floor on minimum wages reasonably consistent with the minimum cost of food, shelter and clothing, businesses are enabled to engage in cut-throat bidding for the consumers' dollar by passing on the loss to the workers with no diminishment in profits to the businesses.
Nate
Ooooh, ooooh. You just made up some bullcrap.
ECON 101? You won't find that crap about "cutthroat bidding passing loses to workers" in any college textbook in use today
Myth and Measurement
by David Card & Alan B. Krueger
David Card and Alan B. Krueger have already made national news with their pathbreaking research on the minimum wage. Here they present a powerful new challenge to the conventional view that higher minimum wages reduce jobs for low-wage workers. In a work that has important implications for public policy as well as for the direction of economic research, the authors put standard economic theory to the test, using data from a series of recent episodes, including the 1992 increase in New Jersey's minimum wage, the 1988 rise in California's minimum wage, and the 1990-91 increases in the federal minimum wage. In each case they present a battery of evidence showing that increases in the minimum wage lead to increases in pay, but no loss in jobs.
A distinctive feature of Card and Krueger's research is the use of empirical methods borrowed from the natural sciences, including comparisons between the "treatment" and "control" groups formed when the minimum wage rises for some workers but not for others. In addition, the authors critically reexamine the previous literature on the minimum wage and find that it, too, lacks support for the claim that a higher minimum wage cuts jobs. Finally, the effects of the minimum wage on family earnings, poverty outcomes, and the stock market valuation of low-wage employers are documented. Overall, this book calls into question the standard model of the labor market that has dominated economists' thinking on the minimum wage. In addition, it will shift the terms of the debate on the minimum wage in Washington and in state legislatures throughout the country.
Sorry you missed it.
Nate
See also:
MINIMUM WAGE EFFECTS ACROSS STATE BORDERS:
ESTIMATES USING CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES
Arindrajit Dube, T. William Lester, and Michael Reich*
http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/157-07.pdf
Nate
Central sleep apnea AHI 62.6 pre-VPAP. Now 0 to 1.3
Present Rx: EPAP: 8; IPAPlo:11; IPAPHi: 23; PSMin: 3; PSMax: 15
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." —Groucho Marx
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NateS
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by NateS » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:58 pm
NateS wrote:NateS wrote:The Choker wrote:NateS wrote:It is Economics 101 that whenever there is not a floor on minimum wages reasonably consistent with the minimum cost of food, shelter and clothing, businesses are enabled to engage in cut-throat bidding for the consumers' dollar by passing on the loss to the workers with no diminishment in profits to the businesses.
Nate
Ooooh, ooooh. You just made up some bullcrap.
ECON 101? You won't find that crap about "cutthroat bidding passing loses to workers" in any college textbook in use today
Myth and Measurement
by David Card & Alan B. Krueger
David Card and Alan B. Krueger have already made national news with their pathbreaking research on the minimum wage. Here they present a powerful new challenge to the conventional view that higher minimum wages reduce jobs for low-wage workers. In a work that has important implications for public policy as well as for the direction of economic research, the authors put standard economic theory to the test, using data from a series of recent episodes, including the 1992 increase in New Jersey's minimum wage, the 1988 rise in California's minimum wage, and the 1990-91 increases in the federal minimum wage. In each case they present a battery of evidence showing that increases in the minimum wage lead to increases in pay, but no loss in jobs.
A distinctive feature of Card and Krueger's research is the use of empirical methods borrowed from the natural sciences, including comparisons between the "treatment" and "control" groups formed when the minimum wage rises for some workers but not for others. In addition, the authors critically reexamine the previous literature on the minimum wage and find that it, too, lacks support for the claim that a higher minimum wage cuts jobs. Finally, the effects of the minimum wage on family earnings, poverty outcomes, and the stock market valuation of low-wage employers are documented. Overall, this book calls into question the standard model of the labor market that has dominated economists' thinking on the minimum wage. In addition, it will shift the terms of the debate on the minimum wage in Washington and in state legislatures throughout the country.
Sorry you missed it.
Nate
See also:
MINIMUM WAGE EFFECTS ACROSS STATE BORDERS:
ESTIMATES USING CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES
Arindrajit Dube, T. William Lester, and Michael Reich*
http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/157-07.pdf
Nate
If you are looking for something being read by today's college students, or you are attending presently, you may have seen this:
Bloomberg Businessweek
Global Economics
"What a Higher Minimum Wage Does for Workers and the Economy"
By Peter Coy and Susan Berfield
November 27, 2013
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... he-economy
and which includes this paragraph:
America’s minimum wage is 27 percent of the U.S. average pay, a lower ratio than that of any other member of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development except Mexico. That doesn’t prove that the U.S. floor is too low—only that it can be higher without the sky falling. In Denmark, among the leading countries in income equality and national happiness, the minimum pay set by negotiations between employer groups and unions is the equivalent of about $20 an hour. Despite that, the World Bank has ranked Denmark as the easiest place in Europe to do business for three years running.
Nate
Central sleep apnea AHI 62.6 pre-VPAP. Now 0 to 1.3
Present Rx: EPAP: 8; IPAPlo:11; IPAPHi: 23; PSMin: 3; PSMax: 15
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." —Groucho Marx
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49er
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by 49er » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:54 am
ButtermilkBuoy wrote:NateS wrote:It is Economics 101 that whenever there is not a floor on minimum wages reasonably consistent with the minimum cost of food, shelter and clothing, businesses are enabled to engage in cut-throat bidding for the consumers' dollar by passing on the loss to the workers with no diminishment in profits to the businesses.
Nate
Conspiracy theorist.
I may have to give up time to start again volunteering in campaigns so we can beat back those who wish for a central government to take more and more control of our lives.
Your votes are seriously retarding economic growth and employment in the U.S. and by that are making it tougher and tougher for people like Idaho's kids.
No need trying to convince you - you are permanently set in a tribal slot and rationalize your position continuously. We will try to beat you at the ballot box and we are going to do something about the brainwashing of our youth by government employees in government schools.
Funny, "evil" liberals are saying the same thing about your positions. But I do agree the ballot box is the best place to work this all out.
Anyway, thanks for reminding me that I need to get off my "you know what" and start doing something productive so that society won't be set back 100 years.
49er