Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

[Pugsy]

I tried the first Pilairo when it came out. It was an okay mask and I could use it but it was/s way down on my list of preferences for various reasons which were really personal preferences. I haven't had a chance to get my hands on the "Q" version and I didn't care for the Pilairo enough to spend more money just to test it. The pillow was simply "bigger" in general than I cared for...again personal preference. So even with the quieter venting it doesn't appeal to me as something I want to invest in any more just to try. The improvements made to it weren't the reason it wasn't at the top of my list of preferences anyway.

I look at things this way. There are several masks that I could use and be successful with but for various reasons I have personal preferences as to why I prefer one over another. I think personal preference is very important and I am all for keeping myself happy. I try something new if it looks interesting just because I am curious. Not necessarily because I am unhappy with what I am using. The experimenting helps relieve the boredom and I am lucky that I am into the "boring" side of my cpap therapy. Plus you never know what you will learn...sometimes that things aren't as bad as you thought they would be...sometimes things are much better than you thought they would be and on occasional I learn that things are worse than I ever imagined. No experiment is a waste though..I always learn something...even if all I learn was "what a waste of money"

No mask out there is going to be THE perfect mask for 100% of the population. We are all individuals and even if our faces and noses were the same we would all have individual preferences that are a huge factor in what we want to use.

I am happy with the P10 as it is...for me the headgear works now that I got it stretched out just a bit (only took a few days and it wasn't horribly horribly tight anyway)...the lack of a swivel hose isn't that big of a deal for me...the Tap Pap doesn't have one either...the way I route my hose and I don't use a hose hanger, doesn't require a swivel hose as a critical part of things and the light weight and flexibility of the P10 hose really makes it not something that I even know is missing so it's a non issue for me. For someone else it might be a big issue and that's to be expected. No mask can satisfy 100% of the population...that's why it's so nice to have so many options available.

I do think that ResMed hit a home run in general with this mask and it is going to be very popular just like the Swift FX was/is among nasal pillow mask users. I think in a couple of years we are going to see more masks with this new diffused venting technology...let's face it, venting is a huge issue for a lot of people either in noise levels or air blowing on them somehow or blowing on their bed partner.

[Loreena]

When I was testing masks, the Pilairo had a strong vent. I tried sleeping facing my wife and she complained that she was going to get an earache from it. With the Q version, she doesn't notice any air at all.

I guess I don't have to worry about the vent since I just sleep with my cat.

But I really think the AirFit manufacturers could attract a lot more people by putting out versions with both the adjustable and one-size headgear, as well as putting out the diffused vent and nondiffused vent--since people have different mindsets. I'm praying the manufacturers see this thread, especially my post (just kiddin').

[ems]

I am happy with the P10 as it is...for me the headgear works now that I got it stretched out just a bit (only took a few days and it wasn't horribly horribly tight anyway)...the lack of a swivel hose isn't that big of a deal for me...the Tap Pap doesn't have one either...the way I route my hose and I don't use a hose hanger, doesn't require a swivel hose as a critical part of things and the light weight and flexibility of the P10 hose really makes it not something that I even know is missing so it's a non issue for me.

You took the words right out of my mouth~ once I stretched out the headgear a little by wrapping it around my granddaughter's stuffed pillow AND finding the right size pillow for me, I can't believe what a wonderful mask the Airfit is. Most of the masks I've used have been annoying for one reason or another and that made it easy for me to skip a night and then two and three. I think I've finally found the mask for me.

I remember waking up once last night thinking the mask wasn't on -- it was -- but it was so light that I thought it had fallen off. I'm so happy with this mask and think it's going to make a major difference. In fact, if it's possible to be absolutely thrilled with a mask... then I'm thrilled with this one.

For the ladies... I pulled my hair over the bottom strap and that made it even more comfortable for me. It didn't move the entire night.

I still think that Resmed made a mistake by not making the headgear adjustable and will lose business because of it. I think that will be the next step if they are smart. One size doesn't fit all and I think they will figure that out.

[Scootergirl]

I'm new here, new to CPAP, just received my machine Monday. Had a full face and felt like I was trapped inside my own face, plus, red on the bridge of my nose and down one side of it that wasn't going away. Adjusting it created too many leaks, less red marks but still not what I needed. Went back to my DME today, and after a pile of different masks, we found the P10 - it is actually the mask my Resp Therapist uses, but since my doctor prescribed a full face, we went through many of those options. I really like the whisper mask, but it left such a big red mark on my nose it was not an option in her opinion. I've read this thread and I'm feeling better about using this mask with the nasal pillows - even with the chin strap, I felt so much less panicky. I was comfortable in the office for the most part - I have a deviated septum and was concerned, but seemed to inhale fine - the exhalation had more resistance than I was expecting, but I was told I would become accustomed to it. It also seemed to pressurize my ears a little? But I haven't read too much about people having that effect. In any case - thank you to all of you who've posted reviews - I've taken a lot of comfort with what I've read here and I hope this is the first of many nights good sleep.

[poorflick]

Although my partner thought the air from the swift was "refreshing". I absolutely hated it. Just the air wooshing past a sheet or pillow would disrupt my sleep. My ahi has dropped since using the airfit.

[bavinck]

Pugsy (and anyone else interested): I have successfully constructed my Swift P10 as per your instructions. Tried it in a few minutes, feels just like my swift FX but without the gust of wind and noise the swift FX has. Will try it tonight. The test will be how well it stays together all night as I move my head around. Looking forward to sleepytime!!

[deerslayer]

First nights thought on the air fit: As others have said it fit rather tight(straps/Pressure against pillows) hopefully they will loosen up with time .Very good seal ! exhaust was greatly reduced from the FX . hose routing-ok, i prefer an overhead hose (mask has no swivel). i sleep mostly on one side or the other. it seems if i sleep on my left side and legs touch one another, i sweat. don't notice if i turn on right side. guess i'm wierd or maybe because of the rheumatoid ? so far the closest mask to perfect for me has been the headrest & Breeze , which are becoming extinct. if i primarily slept on my back the breeze would not be optimal because of the thing a ma jig in back that would rest between the pillow & head .
At this point i'm not sure which mask will be my primary - the P 10 or the Breeze.... may just use the P 10 airfit as my recliner nap mask .
tim
EDIT After second night am becoming acclimated to this mask. very surprised, i think it's a keeper !!!!

[ems]

Nite two... it's such a great little mask! I am doing some mouth breathing and I guess I've forgotten how to keep my tongue toward the top of my mouth. I really don't want to use a chin strap so I have to start working on that.

But the mask itself... it's a keeper! Happiness is having a comfortable mask.

[sleeplessinaz]

EMS - I so agree:
I still think that Resmed made a mistake by not making the headgear adjustable and will lose business because of it. I think that will be the next step if they are smart. One size doesn't fit all and I think they will figure that out.

[Tigerlily]

I don't mind that it isn't adjustable, as it fits me fine. But, I know that is a problem for many.

My very small complaint is that it leaves some marks and I don't think I can fit my pad a cheek on the cheek straps. Can I?

Other than that I love this mask and I think I will keep it. The "wall" of pillows between hubby and I has come down and he hasn't said a peep about feeling air. That is the main thing I wanted. This mask also stays in place, doesn't leak and is pretty comfy, for a cpap mask.

[Scootergirl]

Had my best night of sleep so far - I only woke up once and that has got to be a world record for me. I love this AirFIT P10 - I still have a few moments in the beginning when I put it on, I keep fiddling with it on my face but I know this isn't the product, it's my panic, which is much less than with a ffm. Once I settle down, I barely know it's there, I can change positions without it needing to be adjusted. I wear a chin strap with it, and would love not to, and it's really obvious if you open your mouth with this - there is a wind tunnel affect that comes out of your mouth. I don't have a problem with the head gear - I find it is very adjustable - you move the two straps at the back of your head further apart to loosen it and closer together to tighten it. I don't know about making the head gear more adjustable, but I do think they probably need to make it available in sizes - small, medium and large to fit the differences in peoples head sizes better. I think when you start adding velcro, clips etc to the headgear it kind of defeats the purpose - it's light and barely there, adding more too it would make it more there. From a person who is one week in with CPAP and had such panic with a FFM, I would suggest this to anyone with those issues.

[Loreena]

So glad you have joined the AirFit Club! Kudos for a great night's sleep too!

I think when you start adding velcro, clips etc to the headgear it kind of defeats the purpose - it's light and barely there, adding more too it would make it more there.

Truer words have never been spoken. I actually hope Resmed sees your post more than mine.

[Scootergirl]

So glad you have joined the AirFit Club! Kudos for a great night's sleep too!

I think when you start adding velcro, clips etc to the headgear it kind of defeats the purpose - it's light and barely there, adding more too it would make it more there.

Truer words have never been spoken. I actually hope Resmed sees your post more than mine.

LOL - thanks. I don't know much about CPAP, but from a standpoint of not being able to tolerate a hair band? I'm not going to want this headgear to get any beefier. I like that it will regain it's original size with washing, too. So Resmed - just make different sized headgear, but please, please don't add anything to it!

[chunkyfrog]

Hmm, that makes sense. Hardware tends to tangle with hair and ears, etc.
Different sizes--YES!-- (and disclose the numeric limits of the sizes--OK? --so we can measure to get a fit)
As I said before, the single, non-adjustable size is the ONE thing keeping me from even trying this mask.

[bavinck]

For anyone interested. The Swift P10 setup Pugsy suggested works just great. I used a couple of pieces of electrical tape to hold the masks together under the resmed supplied cover that protects your face from the plastic of the mask. Work great! Adjustability of the swift FX, with the comfort of the p10 pillows and super easy to move hose. Anyone that has a p10 can make their own Swift P10 by simply buying the Swift FX headgear, which is not too costly.