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have you had wisdom teeth removed prior to apnea diagnosis?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:12 am

None were removed
14
35%
1 tooth was removed
1
2%
2 teeth were removed
1
2%
3 teeth were removed
4
10%
4+ teeth were removed (ouch!)
19
48%
 
Total votes : 39

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POLL: wisdom teeth removal

Postby sleepio on Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:12 am

I was thinking back to when I had 3 wisdom teeth removed, allegedly to facilitate teeth movement for braces. It was around this time that my life changed for the worst.

My stupid theory is that removal of these teeth was akin to removing poles holding up a tent. The airway, which may have been previously secured enough not to collapse, no longer has the structure necessary for adequate breathing while lying down.

Of course, this poll won't prove anything, I'm curious about your thoughts as well.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby zoocrewphoto on Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:48 am

It might be better to change the question. I had one wisdom tooth removed before my diagnosis. But I can assure it was at least 10 years after I started snoring and having symptoms of sleep apnea. I declined to answer in the poll since it was before my diagnosis but not before having sleep apnea. Most people go years with sleep apnea before treatment.

That said, I have always had a small mouth (4 non wisdom teeth removed as a teenager and all dentists comment on hard it is to do xrays and work on my small mouth), small airways (allergies and asthma and trouble getting enough air through my nose). I also struggle to swallow pills. And I needed smaller headgear than most people. Apparently, I have smaller facial features, not just my mouth.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby sleepio on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:13 am

Good morning and thanks for responding.

I was going to add to the original OP that wisdom teeth removal could be a contributing factor to a later onset of apnea episodes. For example, similar to what you've indicated, maybe 5 yrs after my wisdom teeth were removed, the tissues in my throat were no longer taut, and started to sag (amongst other things :lol: ) Then an additional 5 yrs passed before I was diagnosed.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby zoocrewphoto on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:37 am

sleepio wrote:Good morning and thanks for responding.

I was going to add to the original OP that wisdom teeth removal could be a contributing factor to a later onset of apnea episodes. For example, similar to what you've indicated, maybe 5 yrs after my wisdom teeth were removed, the tissues in my throat were no longer taut, and started to sag (amongst other things :lol: ) Then an additional 5 yrs passed before I was diagnosed.



Not similar to what I indicated at all. I got ONE wisdom tooth out about 3 years ago at the age of 37. I've had sleep apnea for at least 10 years, probably 15 or more. I did have other teeth out when I was 16, but they weren't my wisdom teeth, and clearly my mouth was already quite small, hence the reason for removing the teeth. I was diagnosed with allergies at the age of 4, and my problems with taking pills started early, I know I was caught hiding pills when I was 6 or 7 years old. My dad had to crush them and put them in ice cream. I am 40 now, and I still choke on pills and even something fairly small can come back up.

My physiology was designed for sleep apnea before I got braces and long before my wisdom teeth came out.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby Loreena on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:43 am

http://doctorstevenpark.com/sleep-apnea ... al-problem

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/ ... necessary/

*All 4 impacted wisdom teeth out at same time in midtwenties; none were bothering me at the time
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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby ChicagoGranny on Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:16 am

My stupid theory is that removal of these teeth was akin to removing poles holding up a tent.


Statistics will show that wisdom tooth removal and apnea are positively correlated. But it is highly unlikely to find cases where either one is the cause of the other. What you will find is that wisdom tooth crowding and apnea have a common causation - cranio-facial underdevelopment. See the Dr. Park article that Loreena kindly provided.
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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby Loreena on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:09 am

When I was a teenager I had braces and they pulled 4 teeth. A few years later my wisdom teeth became impacted and they were all removed. Periodically I notice that my jaw “pops” when I clench my teeth. This comes and goes.

Is this all connected?

Steven Park on February 28th, 2011 8:00 pm

You may have been predisposed to obstructive sleep apnea, but pulling excessive teeth can make things much worse. Obstructive sleep apnea, reflux, TMJ and ADD all go hand in hand.


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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby Pugsy on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:28 am

Had 4 wisdom teeth pulled at age 20 I think it was...that's 41 years ago. Had them all done at once because I had a sneaky suspicion that they wouldn't get me back again...I was right.

I didn't develop any sleep apnea symptoms till I hit menopause about 5 or 6 years ago.
Didn't mark anything on the poll. Coincidence maybe but my airway isn't small and tonsils are shrunk up to nothing.
Small mouth doesn't necessarily equal small airway in everyone. Never wore braces or any need to.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby MagsterMile on Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:37 am

I was in my early 20's when I had all 4 removed. I didn't develop sleep apnea until at least 60 years of age. But, if I slept 6 to 6 1/2 hrs a night for many years, I thought I was doing good. :?

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby BlackSpinner on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:00 pm

I was in my twenties when they were remove. There was no where for them to go except sideways - so no they were not holding anything up.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby midnight_skulker on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:30 pm

None of my wisdom teeth were removed prior to my apnea diagnosis. I'm 67 and I still have all four of my wisdom teeth. After all, how are you going to crack your hickory nuts without wisdom teeth?

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby mgaggie on Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:38 pm

I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth out in the dentists chair (fully awake) when I was in grade six or seven. I don't think I developed apnea until my mid twenties.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby Kiralynx on Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:52 am

I do have a small jaw -- and never developed any wisdom teeth.

However, my apnea symptoms developed approximately eight months after a combination endoscopy and gall bladder surgery for which they overdosed me with anesthesia and same day surgery became four days in the hospital because I passed out whenever I tried to sit up.

My suspicion is that something was damaged during the surgery. Although the fact that I lost a LOT of weight during that period could have been another factor.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby chunkyfrog on Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:54 am

I never had wisdom teeth.
My dentist says I never had buds.

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Re: wisdom teeth removal

Postby Denial Dave on Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:35 am

All four of mine were removed at about age 18.
The roots of the bottom teeth were growing into my jaw bone. I was admitted into a hospital for the surgery.

:( :( :(

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