Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

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Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by nedi » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:09 am

So, I tried ResScan 3.12.016 software this morning due to some data oddities in SleepyHead 0.9.1 and also because I was hoping that RS would show more data (a fella can dream, can't he?).
I opened last night's data into both programs and am surprised at the differences. I had the APAP set from 8-10.
SH showed my med and 95% @ 7.10 and 7.60!? While ResScan showed 9.4 and 9.9.
Also, ResScan showed AHI data for all days of about a months worth of data, while SH just showed for 3 with negative values (another ?!).
Anybody else notice these differences? Perhaps its a version problem with SH. Is there a more recent version? How about for ResScan? Where do I get them?
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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:24 am

Latest ResScan version is 3.16....available from a link in UncleBob's signature
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Latest SleepyHead version is 0.9.2-1 Beta. Links in my signature line. For data oddities Jedimark will need to address those. I have no idea what might be going on. I use Respironics machine and I also have Encore Pro and other than an occasion rounding off difference because Encore only does rounding to tenths..I have not have any remarkable data differences.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by nedi » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:29 am

Pugsy wrote:Latest ResScan version is 3.16....available from a link in UncleBob's signature
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Latest SleepyHead version is 0.9.2-1 Beta. Links in my signature line. For data oddities Jedimark will need to address those. I have no idea what might be going on. I use Respironics machine and I also have Encore Pro and other than an occasion rounding off difference because Encore only does rounding to tenths..I have not have any remarkable data differences.
Thanks, Pugs! A great help as always!
I am currently downloading both. Will post the results.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:42 am

I forgot a little hint with the new SleepyHead Beta version.
If you are using Vista or Windows 7....install under the "run as administrator" command or the automatic updates will fail. You can still update by manually opening the program under the "run as administrator" command and then the update will go through.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by nedi » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:09 am

Thanks for the tip. I wondered why it wouldn't update.
The updated version shows the same spurious data in SH.
Guess I'll just make the switch to ResScan.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:12 am

Send Jedimark a note about the discrepancy. He will want to know and see if it is something he needs to address in SleepyHead. SleepyHead is still an infant and not perfect. Only way for him to fix things is when we bring it to his attention.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:13 am

Forgot to say

Jedimark may see this thread and chime in....otherwise please post problem over in the Beta version thread for Windows version of SH.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by nedi » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:19 pm

Pugsy wrote:Forgot to say

Jedimark may see this thread and chime in....otherwise please post problem over in the Beta version thread for Windows version of SH.
Done!

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by b360155 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:20 pm

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73749&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

See my earlier thread. I've been having issues as far as maximum leak rates and usage hours being out of sync between the two software programs that Jedimark is looking into. On the leak rates, my daily detail graphs look the same between the two but ResScan keeps coming up with a maximum leak of 22.8 or 24.0, substantially higher than the actual maximum showing up in the daily detail graphs which Sleepyhead appears to be capturing correctly. On the usage hours, ResScan comes up with the right amount of total hours and Sleepyhead is coming up with some crazy total usage hours which I've posted in the Bug Tracker section of the SourceForge.net site here:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=de ... id=2089181

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by idamtnboy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:05 pm

nedi wrote:I opened last night's data into both programs and am surprised at the differences. I had the APAP set from 8-10.
SH showed my med and 95% @ 7.10 and 7.60!? While ResScan showed 9.4 and 9.9.
I've seen this same sort of discrepancy when doing the average, median, maximum, and 95% calculations in Lotus from the raw data from the S9. These same calculations are performed inside the S9 and the results are part of the summary data file, which is separate from the raw data files. So far I haven't figured out why, unless it has to do with the S9 using a few more seconds of data than what get recorded in the data file.

Take a read through the topic b360155 links to in his comment. I share my observations there in a fair amount of detail.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by Papit » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:42 pm

Hi, I've been lurking and following this thread conversation. I'm wondering what might be the attraction for downloading SH or any other available CPAP software to a user who already has ResScan. Are there any additional features or functionality in SH that go beyond what ResScan has? Thanks.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by DrBucky » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:50 pm

Papit wrote:Hi, I've been lurking and following this thread conversation. I'm wondering what might be the attraction for downloading SH or any other available CPAP software to a user who already has ResScan. Are there any additional features or functionality in SH that go beyond what ResScan has? Thanks.
Mainly if you have a mac/linux and don't want to purchase(or find if you are a pirate) a copy of windows/go through the bother of booting into a different OS just to look at your XPAP data.

Also it integrates with the CM50D+ (and higher) series of pulse ox monitors. Although to get the data off of a CM50D+ you have to use windows, but sleepy head does let you match up the pulse ox data to the CPAP data (assuming you have the time set correctly on both devices). Such is probably the only time you'd use sleepy head on a windows machine.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by archangle » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:35 am

Papit wrote:Hi, I've been lurking and following this thread conversation. I'm wondering what might be the attraction for downloading SH or any other available CPAP software to a user who already has ResScan. Are there any additional features or functionality in SH that go beyond what ResScan has? Thanks.
Try it and you'll see the differences.

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Re: Data differences in SleepyHead and ResScan

Post by DrPepper00 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:38 am

Papit wrote:Hi, I've been lurking and following this thread conversation. I'm wondering what might be the attraction for downloading SH or any other available CPAP software to a user who already has ResScan. Are there any additional features or functionality in SH that go beyond what ResScan has? Thanks.
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