Higher leak rate but lower AHI. What the heck??

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Higher leak rate but lower AHI. What the heck??

Post by ChrisC » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:46 am

Wow.. I've REALLY seen a difference the last few nights. What has changed? I've fiddled with my mask a bit and saw a slight increase on my leak rate. Remarkably, with the increased leak rate I saw a drastic drop in my AHI and specifically my HI. Now, my next question is: how does increased leak rate mean lower AHI?? Shouldn't I be seeing the opposite?

Date Usage Leak AHI AI HI
29-Mar 6:51 0.00L/s 12.8 1.7 11.1
03-Apr 6:40 .08L/s 9.3 0.7 8.6
04-Apr 5:26 .10L/s 6.4 0.3 6.1
05-Apr 7:21 .40L/s 4.6 0.4 4.2
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Re: Higher leak rate but lower AHI. What the heck??

Post by mindy » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:39 am

A couple of possibilities ... here's one scenario:

I'm assuming that number is "average leak" which doesn't give you enough data to figure out what's happening. If you have a "large leak" one or more times during the night, most machines stop recording AHI durng a large leak so AHI will seem to have dropped but instead you're getting inadequate treatment.

Is there some way you can get the peak leak?

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Re: Higher leak rate but lower AHI. What the heck??

Post by travismcgee » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:49 am

I'm curious did you sleep the same number of hours without awakening during the 4 days of data you have presented? I see the useage numbers for each night and since leak rate is a function of time and AHI is a function of state of sleep (in a manner of speaking) you could have an AHI of zero and a larger leak rate if you never fully reached the state of sleep where hypopneas and apneas are occuring, some obviously are though. An oversimplified example would be If I laid in bed for 6 hours with a somewhat leaky mask and never fell asleep. Your useage is about two hours longer from 4/4/09 to 4/5/09 but your leak rate is 4 times higher. I am wondering if this isn't waking you up just enough to bring you out of a later sleep stage and into an earlier one where your likelihood of events are diminished and spread out over a longer time period. Hence the lower AHI coinciding with the longest useage.

Have you felt more tired or refreshed over this 4 day period?


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Re: Higher leak rate but lower AHI. What the heck??

Post by ChrisC » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:58 am

Excellent points. I never considered that the machine would stop recording during a large leak. I have my card reader coming today, so I hope it'll show more detailed events on the charts.

Travis - that's a great point too. I actually woke up feeling pretty refreshed today. I painted the house all weekend and was dog tired last night. I only remember waking up once or twice to adjust my nasal pillows during the night. It would make sense that, with a higher leak rate, my quality of sleep would decline in turn.

Given these considerations, maybe I should be satisfied with my low leak rate, but AHI around 10 (with Remstar's method of reporting HIs).
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