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Post by SleepGuy » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:23 pm

SAG and others have raised a number of questions about the safety of the PurSleep products on the Vaseline thread (from 2006). As much of a classic as that thread may be, it seems that these questions deserve their own thread. I believe that any and all questions about PurSleep are legitimate and deserve to be raised and addressed. So, here's the latest posting on the Vaseline thread:
StillAnotherGuest wrote:
I think it would be far more efficient to watch for the aforementioned symptoms or lab tests:


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1. Change in oximetry trend (mean reading during night, spot check during day). Baseline and follow-ups may be obtained from original PSGs, serial PSGs and/or self-monitoring.
2. Change in screening spirometry values.
3. Change in complete Pulmonary Function Testing (PFT) values, particularly diffusion.
4. Symptomatic change in pulmonary function, as in decreased ability of aerobic exercise or increased shortness of breath on exertion
and then go back, do some history and look for commonalities.

SAG
Just a few initial thoughts come to mind here:

1. To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a certified aromatherapist. Aromatherapy is not a practice recognized or licensed by any governmental entity. To the extent that "aromatherpists" make medical treatment claims, they are practicing medicine and should be required to be licensed for that purpose, consistent with the laws of all 50 states and the federal government. Therefore, "certified" aromatherapists are not much more than New Age Quacks IMO. Gary Young (aka Young Living) right here in my home state calls himself a "Natureopathic Doctor" or ND. One of his "certified" practitioners (and presumably MLM marketer) had the gall to post on this site a claim that putting certain YoungLiving essential oils on your feet every night for a week would actually cure sleep apnea. While there may well be a medical basis for some therapeutic claims on essential oils (such as Goel proved with lavender and sleep), there is virtually no proof of any kind showing therapeutic benefits with one exception: A smell that an individual finds to be pleasant will probably help that person relax and feel calm. The sense of smell directly connects to the limbic system and therefore can affect our emotions for good or bad. That's pretty much what science has actually proven about smell. Human responses to smell are immediate and emotional. So that pretty much sums it up: Pure Hedonism.

2. There is almost as much misinformation about essential oil safety as there is about their miraculous properties. If you believe the safety claims, almost any essential oil will cause spontaneous miscarriage so pregnant women should avoid them like the plague. It's modern Patent Medicine aka Snake Oil, miracle cure for almost anything known to humans. Having sifted through a large amounts of unfounded trivia, I concluded that the best recognized source of information about essential oil safety is a book by that title by Robert Tisserand. Feel free to check it out from the library and read it. One of my favorite examples from Tisserand is the fact that, apparently beliveing the claims about essential oil causing spontaneous miscarriages, in a number of cases pregnant women have ingested essential oils hoping to cause an abortion. It has yet to work in any case--not one time. It made the mother sick but no magic abortion effect.

3. I have searched Tisserand extensively and found not a single reference to any questions about the questions SAG has raised and in particular the possibility of lung damage or function. This is probably because aromatic molecules are extremely small and would readily be absorbed by the lungs directly into the bloodstream, as Tisserand points out. This applies to all natural and artificual fragrances. The kinds of lung damage you're talking about involves substances that have much, much larger molecular sizes, big enough that they might actually become trapped in the lung, too large to be absorbed into the bloodstream. The maximum possible dose of essential oil that may end up in the bloodstream through inhalation would not be greater than the original dose dispensed, probably quite a bit less. A great many aromatherapy suppliers provide personal diffusion devices for people to use throughout the day or night around their immediate person, in their car, at the office. Room and office diffusers are also readily available as are incense burners and the like, together with a large variety of air freshener and cleaning products, all of which emit aromatic molecules into the air we breathe. Many aromatherapy books recommend the dispensing of essential oils right on the pillow or bedclothing. No one seems to be overly concerned about aromatic safety and lung damage in any of these applications.

4. To be sure, the fact that aromatic molecules may be absorbed directly into the bloodstream presents obvious toxicological questions, as would the absorption of any small molecule. Every time you smell a flower, strawberry shampoo, soap, lotion, bubblebath, or fabric softener, those little aromatic molecules are most likely going right into your bloodstream. For that matter, every time you drink soda pop, you are ingesting relatively large amounts of essential oils used to make the soda syrup (yes, soda pop "natural" flavors are essential oil based--lots of lime and citrus). Essential oils find their way into the food supply in surprising large amounts. Every pack of DoubleMint Gum is full of real peppermint essential oil. Big Red is packed with cinnamon leaf essential oil. When you chew this it ends up right in your lungs and in your bloodstream. Many, many products are packed with mint essential oil (or synthetically derived mint oil with basically the same molecules), from mouthwash to toothpaste, gum, breath mints, tic tacs, etc. This is why the Federal Drug Administration developed a list of essential oils that are "Generally Recognized as Safe" for human consumption. The list includes peppermint, lavender, lime, tangerine, orange, ylang ylang, vanilla, and the other essential oils used in PurSleep products. My understanding is that if they are safe for direct human consumption via ingestion they are safe for other forms of exposure, including inhalation since the molecules are readily absorbed into the blood stream just as they are readily absorbed into the bloodstream through digestion. At least that's how I read Tisserand.

In any event, if you are worried about lung damage and controlling the relevant variables, the inquiry should not be limited to essential oils. The concern would apply to any molecule that humans perceive to impart an odor (any aromatic molecule), whether natural or artificial. In order to control the variables test subjects would need to live in a plastic bubble for many months to get all of the aromatic molecules out of their systems. Body odor and flatulence would need to be immediately removed from the bubble so as not to impair the experiment. Unscented cleaning products only would be permitted, including deodorant. Only then could someone conduct a test to find out whether or not the PurSleep products caused lung damage.

That sounds a little too complicated to me. I prefer to stand by Tisserand's Essential Oil Safety and the FDA list of essentail oils that are "Generally Recognizes as Safe" for human consumption. I admit that I am not all that sophisticated and that I tend to be simple minded but I can't see how any aromatic molecule could cause lung damage. To my simple mind, anything that helps me use my CPAP is good. I would much rather live with the risk that my lungs will become completely plugged with tiny aromatic molecules than die from untreated apnea and/or one of its co-morbid conditions.
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Re: PurSleep Product Safety

Post by ozij » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:26 am

SleepGuy wrote:This is probably because aromatic molecules are extremely small and would readily be absorbed by the lungs directly into the bloodstream, as Tisserand points out. This applies to all natural and artificual fragrances. The kinds of lung damage you're talking about involves substances that have much, much larger molecular sizes, big enough that they might actually become trapped in the lung, too large to be absorbed into the bloodstream.
This is why the Federal Drug Administration developed a list of essential oils that are "Generally Recognized as Safe" for human consumption. The list includes peppermint, lavender, lime, tangerine, orange, ylang ylang, vanilla, and the other essential oils used in PurSleep products. My understanding is that if they are safe for direct human consumption via ingestion they are safe for other forms of exposure, including inhalation since the molecules are readily absorbed into the blood stream just as they are readily absorbed into the bloodstream through digestion.
Thank you, Bret, that's what I meant when I asked for chemical and physical information on that thread. And thanks for the info about Tisserand - I rather doubt it's available anywhere in my vicinity - and that's an $80 book at Amazon I'll have to think about that.


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Post by StillAnotherGuest » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:03 am

Well thanks very much for the invitation! You're right, that other thread started to get a little too busy with the two topics (exogenous lipoid pneumonia from inadvertent petroleum jelly aspiration and environmental lung disease from chronic and/or overexposure to essential oils). On the other hand, there are will be some helpful parallels between the two, so some references may pop up from time to time. For instance, in the 1930's, when there was widespread use of assorted oil-based products for a variety of conditions, the incidence of exogenous lipoid pneumonia on autopsy was 8.8% in children and 1.2% in adults. Not "1.2% of CPAP patients who use petroleum jelly", it was 1.2% of adults period. That incidence is substantially reduced today through education and understanding, and that brings us to the first important concept:

The more subjects that are involved in a potentially hazardous practice that results in chronic disease, the greater the prevalence will be. While it might be interesting from a scientific point of view to one day determine the odds ratio of intranasal petroleum jelly use in CPAP patients to incidence of exogenous lipoid pneumonia and get a nice pure number, the confounding factors of a study like that (quantity of petroleum jelly, technique of application, sleeping position, as well as the ethics of such a study would make that impossible). However, the point remains, it can happen, it does happen, and the more you do it, the more it will happen. Does everybody who smokes gets cancer? No, of course not, and if you look at the numbers, it's not really all that great (you're more likely to die a horrible death from COPD, but hey, that's your choice).

Getting back to the PurSleep system of essential oils, the sales points are syllogistic-- aromatherapy has benefit, essential oils are an important component of aromatherapy, therefore shooting concentrated EO through a CPAP machine all night must be an even better idea. And that should be the discussion point.

All of the data supporting EO for aromatherapy employ intermittent and/or indirect application methods. There is nothing to support highly concentrated EO, for extended periods of time, with an enhanced driving pressure. The EO distribution is entirely different in that scenario from the passive effects of a spontaneously breathing patient getting olfactory contact.

So OK, I don't know if the sky is falling, or if so, how much or fast. However, I think we need to look at this-- frequent users of EO, administered under pressure, with prolonged contact time. The effects of environmental lung disease caused by this method of adminstration (either reactive airways disease or change in alveolar capillary membrane integrity) should be apparent in the aforementioned studies:
  • Change in oximetry trend (mean reading during night, spot check during day). Baseline and follow-ups may be obtained from original PSGs, serial PSGs and/or self-monitoring.
  • Change in screening spirometry values.
  • Change in complete Pulmonary Function Testing (PFT) values, particularly diffusion.
  • Symptomatic change in pulmonary function, as in decreased ability of aerobic exercise or increased shortness of breath on exertion
OK, time for Mailbag:
Nature's Gift wrote:First of all, it is important to bear in mind that Aromatherapy Certification in the United States, is meaningless. There is no official recognition by any state governing agency of certification.
ozij wrote:Looks like those people you spoke to, who spoke to their mentors were pulling your leg...
LOL! I think Marge's point was more like
In order to practice any sort of hands on healing therapy one needs another professional license, ie, massage therapist, physical therapist, registered nurse, etc.
and trust me, I've got that one covered.
ozij wrote:Because I'm looking for the smell.
Many important points here. I believe that CAM has a very important role in sleep disorders (hey, most of sleep hygiene could be classified as CAM), aromatherapy may be very helpful, but there's also a number of other very effective routes of adminstration for essential oils.
ozij wrote:You could start with a worst case scenario for all the variables, and just look at the amounts the come out of the machine.
I ain't got a mass spectrograph, but I do have a PFT machine.
ozij wrote:More efficient for the people who may have come down with lung disease by that time? That does not sound right to me.
Keep your eye out on craig's list for a mass spectrograph. I need to go play with the noisy thing on the bottom of the post there.
ozij wrote:You mean the site where they write:
Inhalation:
add 5 to 7 drops to a bowl of steaming hot water, put a 'towel tent' over the head to capture the steam. Close your eyes and inhale until water cools or until you stop smelling the oil. Repeat, if necessary, every four or five hours.
Microdiffusion:
Use a nebulizing diffuser that will break the oil into millions of micro-particles. In case of illness, inhale near the "mouth" of the nebulizer. Only four or five minutes worth should be sufficient, repeat every few hours.
Humidifier:
(cool mist). Add from 3 to 9 drops of your chosen EO to the water of the humidifier. Run overnight, or add the essential oils two or three times a day, if running continuously. Please note, the essential oils can conceivably damage a humidifier. I've never had this happen, but it is a slight risk. This is an effective method if using the essential oils with a sick child, since there is not risk of danger from hot water, etc.
(my emphasis)
All entail intermittent and/or indirect application (it'll damage your humidifier?), short-term utilization, under ambient pressure.
SleepGuy wrote:Just a few thoughts since I am too tired to get into the deails tonight.
Can I interest you in a sleep study?

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Re: PurSleep Product Safety

Post by boston » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:32 am

Im more worried about inhaling my aerophagia than my pursleep product !!!

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SleepGuy wrote: .................... Body odor and flatulence would need to be immediately removed from the bubble so as not to impair the experiment. ..............

I keep trying to volunteer for medical experiments. Ruled out of another one.
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Post by TXKajun » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:02 am

*yawn* *bigger yawn*

Yet another totally meaningless concern has been raised about essential oils, aromatherapy and health. Geez, I don't even know where to start on this.....scented candles, Glade mists, Oust, plug-in scent doohickies, perfume, cologne, soap, Pinesol, etc, the list of scented products we all use on a regular basis in our daily lives is darn near endless. But for darn sure, the essential oils aren't any worse than any of the things I've just mentioned and are probably a bunch better (I speak from experience for both me and Sweetie with EOs).

Sheesh, give it a rest, will ya??? If you don't like the product, just don't buy it or use it.

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Re: PurSleep Product Safety

Post by ozij » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:18 am

I love the product, I want to use it I want to know what I'm doing: - I am trying to understand what both SAG and SleepGuy are saying.

Anyone have info on the comparative size of a largest molecule, in the EO's Pur-Sleep uses, and the paraffin molecule?

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Post by SleepGuy » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:26 am

SAG, I am not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

Pediatric anesthesiologists figured out a long time ago how to get a kid to take an anesthesia mask: make it smell good. If it smells good, the child will have reduced what the docs call "mask anxiety" and symptoms of panic (does this sound familiar?). So there are a number of scented anesthesia masks on the market. King Systems even makes a peppermint scented mask for adults but here's a link to their scented kid masks: http://www.kingsystems.com/PRODUCTS/Fac ... fault.aspx

Here is what King Systems claims with respect to their adult scented mask:
Enthusiasm for the "Original" King Mask led to the development of the unique Fresh Scent mask. The Fresh Scent mask incorporates all the unique benefits of the "Original" King Mask with a pleasing mint scent, designed to relax patients of all ages when facing surgery. The mint scent reduces a patient's stress as the anesthesia mask is brought near her face. The mask contains natural oils that release the mint scent, without the residue found in sprays or balms.
The King System products have been accepted by the FDA. One issue in the King Systems application dealt with the potential side effects of direct dermal (skin) exposure from the aromatics on the mask. It was still approved. Many other similar products include sprays and balms that the doctor applies to a normal mask. Now I think that applying lip balm type product directly to an anesthesia mask may present other risks (see Vaseline thread) but it is done thousands of times a day in hospitals by doctors licensed to practice medicine.

But I digress. Back to my point: Using syllogism, if a smell that a patient finds to be pleasant helps a patient accept an anesthesia mask and reduces "mask anxiety," a product that delivers a pleasant smell in a CPAP system may help a patient accept the CPAP mask and reduce "mask anxiety." Makes sense to me.
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Post by roster » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:40 am

TXKajun wrote:...... Geez, I don't even know where to start on this..............
Maybe we should quit riding in automobiles. I just cleaned the interior of one of my car's windows this weekend. Cleaning off the chemical fog reminded me I am breathing that into my lungs every time I sit in the car.

Plastics used in vehicle interiors and child car seats contain many chemicals that are added during the production processes to impart specific properties such as rigidity, durability or flame resistance. Many of these chemicals are not chemically bound to the parts and are consequently released into the environment during the life of the product. One of the common ways chemicals are released is referred to as “off-gassing,” and evidence of this is sometimes present as a window film or “fogging” that develops on the inside of the windshield. Heat can accelerate this process and UV exposure may also cause chemicals to break down into even more toxic compounds. The mix of chemicals released from materials used inside the car can be inhaled or ingested by drivers and passengers through dust and air, potentially causing allergic or other acute reactions. These chemicals have also been linked in animal studies to long-term health impacts such as birth defects, impaired learning, liver toxicity and cancer. The concern with the commercial use of these chemicals is that consumers are exposed to them from many sources in addition to auto interiors, and the combination of these many exposures may lead to harm.

Flexible PVC also contains plasticizers called phthalates, which off-gas during vehicle use and are deposited on dust particles and windshields, where they cause "fogging". One of the most common phthalates used, DEHP (di 2-ethyl-hexyl phthalate), has been linked to a number of serious health problems. The EPA classifies it as a probable human carcinogen, and there is also evidence that it causes male and female genital and urinary malformations, preterm deliveries, and testicular atrophy. Short-term high exposure to DEHP interferes with sperm formation in mice and rats, as well as delayed sexual maturity. Long-term exposure affects the liver and testes, and in some cases thyroid, ovaries, kidneys, and blood. Studies on animals suggest that DEHP or some of its breakdown products pass across the placenta and reach the fetus, causing birth defects, alterations in the structure of bones, brain, liver, kidney, and testes of the young animals, and even fetal death. Studies have also shown that DEHP or some of its breakdown products can pass from mother to babies via breast milk and alter the development of the young animals.

http://www.healthycar.org/chemicals.introduction.php
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Post by ozij » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:00 am

Back to my point: Using syllogism, if a smell that a patient finds to be pleasant helps a patient accept an anesthesia mask and reduces "mask anxiety," a product that delivers a pleasant smell in a CPAP system may help a patient accept the CPAP mask and reduce "mask anxiety." Makes sense to me.
It that were the issue, I would not be concerned. The issue is an quantity issue. Furthermore: reducing anxiety in the beginning for desensitization purposes is one thing, and it assumes you stop using Pur-Sleep once you're used to the mask.
But we're discussing the use of Pur-Sleep on a nightly basis - all our remaining lives, as part of our cpap therapy. And that's no way like having anesthesia - even when you're very ill and have to go through many surgeries.

SAG's point, the way I read it is:
This is many hours. And it's "blasted" into the lungs.

SleepGuy's :
The maximum possible dose of essential oil that may end up in the bloodstream through inhalation would not be greater than the original dose dispensed, probably quite a bit less
Note: SAG uses "blasted" SleepGuy uses "dispensed"

SAG says "paraffin",
SleepGuy says:
aromatic molecules are extremely small and would readily be absorbed by the lungs directly into the bloodstream, as Tisserand points out. This applies to all natural and artificual fragrances. The kinds of lung damage you're talking about involves substances that have much, much larger molecular sizes, big enough that they might actually become trapped in the lung, too large to be absorbed into the bloodstream
And I'm saying it shouldn't be impossible to find objective info about:
How much of the dispensed dose is pushed out by a machine on maximum pressure during 8 hours.
What is the size of the molecules -

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Post by tom@ » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:22 am

OK all this mass hysteria has perked my interest.

What about BPA? Bisphenol A: http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/34955

My wife has scoured the house getting rid of any baby bottles, plates and cups that might have BPA's in them.

Canada is thinking of banning the sale of baby bottles with BPA's in it:
http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/34947

From looking at most XPAP machines they probably have it in them. Especially the clear plastic (eg. humidifier) and the bisphenol A leaches out more with heat. And we are pressurizing this and putting it into our bodies.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/01 ... ater_s.php

Thoughts about this?

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tom@ wrote:OK all this mass hysteria has perked my interest.

What about BPA? Bisphenol A: http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/34955

My wife has scoured the house getting rid of any baby bottles, plates and cups that might have BPA's in them.

Canada is thinking of banning the sale of baby bottles with BPA's in it:
http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/34947

From looking at most XPAP machines they probably have it in them. Especially the clear plastic (eg. humidifier) and the bisphenol A leaches out more with heat. And we are pressurizing this and putting it into our bodies.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/01 ... ater_s.php

Thoughts about this?
Yes. Read this thread: "plastics in humidifier and tubing". It has 6 pages of thoughts on the subject.
ttp://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=289506#p289506

And please, let's keep this thread focused on Pur-Sleep.
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StillAnotherGuest wrote:...and environmental lung disease from chronic and/or overexposure to essential oils...SAG
15 years ago, I was exposed for an extended period of time to a high concentration of natural gas while in the Navy. Two days later, I had a severe case of "bronchitis" that the branch clinic threw some antibiotics at along with a nebulizer and told me "you'll be fine, natural gas does not cause lung problems." Three days after that, I was in a full blown pneumonia, and again the docs said "it's not the gas exposure, it won't hurt you." This was, of course, in July, a very high season for bronchitis and pneumonia...

For over a year, I couldn't breath well, heck, couldn't even walk to the mailbox and back (we live in an acre) without stopping to catch my breath. Had 2 attacks that sure looked and acted like asthma attacks, but the branch clinic told me it was all in my head, there was really nothing wrong with me...after all, natural gas is not toxic to your lungs as an irritant that way.

Finally I had an episode severe enough that they had to send me to a pulmonologist. As he read my chart, his color began to resemble a lobster under full boil, and his face wound up looking like my mother's when I had broken her fine china on a dare. He explained his anger, stating that the (and I quote) "imbeciles at the branch clinic" should have realized that although natural gas may not be an irritant to the lungs and bronchial passages, that the chemical that is put in to the gas at production to make it smell could well be. I was in full blown environmental lung disease which, had it been treated properly in the beginning when I had the "chemical pneumonia", would not have become nearly as severe as it was at that time, and the scarring would have been minimized.

I am now extremely sensitive to may chemical smells and "particles", especially those that derive from petrochemical sources. I cannot be around Avon perfumes at all, and many other perfumes will "set me off". Diesel smells? Forget it. SOME essential oils will aggravate and throw me into an asthma attack, others however, have no effect at all. I cannot be around scented candles that are burning, the Glade wall fresheners and spray air fresheners? My boss has had to ban them from the office, since the sprays were being way overused and the wall fresheners were very strong in small offices. The entire place smelled like a cheap perfume factory and got so bad I almost could not walk in the front door.

When I use the Pur Sleep, I am very careful, and it is a minimum of 18 inches away from my intake on the machine. Before I try it to sleep, I will sit with it near me in a small room and see if there is any irritation to my lungs. If not, I'll try it.

I think any user with chronic lung problems needs to be careful and "test" it before attempting to sleep with it. I would not place it too close to my machine under any circumstances, a minimum of 12 inches. Even at 18 inches, I get a nice smell.

Most people, those without lung problems, if they can be around the Glade and other air fresheners will probably have no problems. You get more particles with the plug in fresheners than you do with a few drops of Pur Sleep.

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Post by Bert_Mathews » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:17 pm

Debjax wrote:
StillAnotherGuest wrote:...and environmental lung disease from chronic and/or overexposure to essential oils...SAG
When I use the Pur Sleep, I am very careful, and it is a minimum of 18 inches away from my intake on the machine. Before I try it to sleep, I will sit with it near me in a small room and see if there is any irritation to my lungs. If not, I'll try it.

I think any user with chronic lung problems needs to be careful and "test" it before attempting to sleep with it. I would not place it too close to my machine under any circumstances, a minimum of 12 inches. Even at 18 inches, I get a nice smell.

Most people, those without lung problems, if they can be around the Glade and other air fresheners will probably have no problems. You get more particles with the plug in fresheners than you do with a few drops of Pur Sleep.
Finally "COMMON SENSE" - - - - Thank You!

I'm sure the FEW that are PARANOID about almost ANYTHING should avoid Computers.... The Electromagnetic Ray produced by the screens is MORE dangerous than NOT using distilled water or AROMA THERAPY .... If anybody should be in trouble "IT's ME" I have used Pur-Sleep back when it first came out and you soaked a cigarette filter thing and put it in-line with your hose. I even put it in the HUMIDIFIER < I'm SURE Bret would not approve!>
If you are WORRIED "DO NOT USE IT" If you Just want to SAVE the other people in the WORLD "State It Up Front!" .
THANK U - - - "Debjax". - . -. I'll jump off my SoapBox now.......

BERT

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