Katrina -an eye-witness perspective

djv1255 · Post by **djv1255** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:17 am

Here is a nice timeline but it is missing where the NO’s Office of Emergency Preparedness used the city and school buses to evacuate the poor people.

Oops! The mayor didn’t use the buses to evacuate the people.

NO’s Disaster Plan
Disaster Guide for NOs citizens

The timeline link has a nice “polite” discussion going about Katrina.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:53 am

Anonymous wrote:Here are some URL's that are interesting reading. They pertain to the story and people that wrote the story that Will originally posted. As you can see in the first URL, there are lots of comments about it. Anyway, you'll get the idea of what their political philosophy is.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfsocialists/3687.html

http://www.sfsocialists.org/

http://www.socialistworker.org/2003-2/4 ... _790.shtml

Thanks R & R and previous "Guest" posters.

Also, thanks Will for posting it. It brought out some interesting information about our local, state and federal government functions.
Unfortunately, this "disaster" in New Orleans was made worse by the failures at the lower levels first.....local then state before it got to the feds. That's where the bureaucracy starts. They were warned to evacuate the city earlier that weekend and didn't. There are (at least) three other states that probably had MORE devistation and yet New Orleans gets all of the coverage.
It's sad that everything has to be politicized.

I knew the story was BOGUS typical left wing socialists.

coffee · Post by **coffee** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:52 pm

I hate to see this fine forum dedicated to information and support on sleep apnea issues reduced to bipartisan political bickering.

Obviously there were major mistakes made by local, state, and federal officials around this horrible and predicted disaster.

It is understandable to be skeptical of unpleasant and disturbing accounts. I would just like to point out that the story that Willsucceed brought to our attention was reprinted in the New York Times, with additional eye-witness qualifications, on Saturday, September 10.

wading thru the muck! · Post by **wading thru the muck!** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:57 pm

coffee wrote: It is understandable to be skeptical of unpleasant and disturbing accounts. I would just like to point out that the story that Willsucceed brought to our attention was reprinted in the New York Times, with additional eye-witness qualifications, on Saturday, September 10.

These days, just because something is printed in the NY Times does very little to verify whether or not it's true.

lynn · Post by **lynn** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:24 pm

Wading, you beat me to the punch on that one...

WillSucceed · Post by **WillSucceed** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:25 pm

Wading wrote:

These days, just because something is printed in the NY Times does very little to verify whether or not it's true.

Wading: I think you are absolutely right. Big or small, these papers all tell it like they see it.

There are, of course, two exceptions. If Ben Stein says it, or it is reported in the Lone Star Times, it is the absolute, honest-to-God, totally unbiased, you-can-believe-me-on-this-one-because-I'd-never-steer-you-wrong, truth.

I know I'm going to get in trouble for this one... so be it.

rock and roll · Post by **rock and roll** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:29 pm

WillSucceed · Post by **WillSucceed** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:32 pm

Rock & Roll wrote:

KMA!

Nice! Very charming and gentlemanly!

Ben Stein... STILL LAUGHING!!!

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:33 pm

KMA!

A man of few words, actually a man of acronyms.

rock and roll · Post by **rock and roll** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:41 pm

We said we would not continue with this venue on the list.

I plan to honor it.

I and most of the list could care less what you think, I think that was very obvious.

neversleeps · Post by **neversleeps** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:03 pm

coffee wrote:I hate to see this fine forum dedicated to information and support on sleep apnea issues reduced to bipartisan political bickering.

Really? Is that why, after this thread had been dead for 4 days, you decided to resurrect it and start the bickering all over again?

WillSucceed · Post by **WillSucceed** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:10 pm

I and most of the list could care less what you think, I think that was very obvious.

Interesting comment, especially since I get lots of comments from 'most of the list' thanking me for the input that I offer. Also, to suggest that one "could care less" actually means that one does care. If you are going to go for a sarcastic insult, you could at least get it right.

Thanks for giving me the 'truth.' I guess you must gotten this little pearl from Ben or, the Lone Star Times.

Still laughing!

I'll stop poking you now. Really, I will.

SPYHED · Post by **SPYHED** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:39 pm

Your post name is right on the money.

You will succeed in continuing your original post. I am very suprised that you continue down this path will, you are obviously well educated and help MANY people on this forum. You have also alienated yourself quite a bit by some of us who may have looked upon you as a CPAP mentor.

Long live Rock and Roll.

I already know your SA remark is coming, but KMA too.

The Hed

bikernc · Post by **bikernc** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:42 pm

Remember first and foremost, we as a country failed our fellow citizens! Levy
repair and construction have been cut by two thirds by the government. State, ;ocal and federal officials have known for almost 100 years of this possible catastrophe and yet no one has ever planned . Not the city, not the state and
certainly not the FEDS. Federal Emergency Management Agency oversees all
emergency plans and deemed New Orleans plans acceptable by their standards.
Also, having lived in LA, the people are among some of the poorest in our nation...These people neither had the money, the means or the help to leave the city. THe end of every month the money is gone. Many of us in the "middle class" understand this as well! And as usual, the arrogant, self centered Texicans with whom I am o so familiar are glad handing and congratulating themselves for a job well done.....
No this is not the forum and I am disgusted by the commentary.

wading thru the muck! · Post by **wading thru the muck!** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:11 pm

bikernc wrote:Remember first and foremost, we as a country failed our fellow citizens! Levy
repair and construction have been cut by two thirds by the government. State, ;ocal and federal officials have known for almost 100 years of this possible catastrophe and yet no one has ever planned . Not the city, not the state and
certainly not the FEDS. Federal Emergency Management Agency oversees all
emergency plans and deemed New Orleans plans acceptable by their standards.
Also, having lived in LA, the people are among some of the poorest in our nation...These people neither had the money, the means or the help to leave the city. THe end of every month the money is gone. Many of us in the "middle class" understand this as well! And as usual, the arrogant, self centered Texicans with whom I am o so familiar are glad handing and congratulating themselves for a job well done.....
No this is not the forum and I am disgusted by the commentary.

Bill, you state statistics you have heard from the propagandizers as fact and then slander the residents of the state of Texas (of which R&R is one). These comments certainly do no good in any sort of constructive dialogue on the subject.

I am very uplifted by the opinions expressed by many here as I have been in the past regarding these heated topics. I, for one, am glad that they continue.

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Katrina -an eye-witness perspective

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