Can bad CPAP treatment cause mental disorders or dementia?

Mgsnorer · Post by **Mgsnorer** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:09 am

I don't usually chime in, but this was my experience. I feel much better with a mask that has more built in ventilation i.e. I prefer the dreamwear to the p10. I always felt sick to my stomach with the p10. Also, if it's whistling, there might be a small leak. If the mask is waking you up all night, you're not getting the sleep you need. I experimented with masks a lot. I used my own funds, so I wasn't dependent on the dme.

Also, through my work, I appraised a dental / apnea (using cpap) practice that built custom full face masks that are held with a bite plate, like the tap pap. No leaks, no straps. It might be hard to find, but perhaps something like that might help.

Hang in there!

Lucyhere · Post by **Lucyhere** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:23 am

Jimmy... Kteague has excellent suggestions! I would also seek Pugsy's advice. She has helped many people on the road to success with this therapy. Bottom line, be careful who you take advice from.

DeeCPAP · Post by **DeeCPAP** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:13 pm

kteague wrote:I guess I'm I'm sympathetic to the idea that one can be an outlier, as I have been one and remember too well the frustration building to desperation. I can't speak to the role your anxiety issues play in all this, but here's my take on things. If you have already done these things, I apologize.

1. Start a journal that notes briefly the activities of your days and any daytime symptoms. Note time and what is eaten, incidents of times you feel bad, time you take any meds, etc. It may be valuable later to see patterns. If it turns out CPAP is not the cause of your symptoms, you'll have a head start on ruling out other things.
2. Choose the machine settings that give you the best results based on data and leave them there. There needs to be a constant to view other factors alongside.
3. Check your blood pressure at the times you feel the sensations in your head that you've described. Write those results in your journal. Do you have a home BP monitor? If not, maybe someone you know has one you can borrow for a while just to spot check.
4. Have you had your blood sugar checked in any detail? For some reason blood sugar has crossed my mind (either low or high) as blood sugar can certainly cause us to feel a bit foggy and disjointed. Wouldn't hurt to rule it out.
5. Are you working with a sleep doctor and/or any other doctors? While experience has taught me that doesn't always lead to a solution, I can't help but think you could benefit from some testing and professional oversight to see if anything besides OSA is going on.

Ineffective CPAP treatment can allow sleep apnea to continue to assault the body and rob us of restorative sleep. Prolonged sleep deprivation can certainly cause mental changes. Which is different from CPAP treatment actually causing the problems. I don't know the answer to that part of your question. Your desire to have a CPAP coach would be a great idea. To a degree, the DME is supposed to fill that role, but what you're suggesting is beyond what I've known any to do. I've seen this desire discussed here before. I for one would be interested in seeing what your journals might reveal over time. Good luck with everything.

I verified this article with a research MD and it's true. The research won a Nobel Prize. Worth reading, but not if someone's still has persistent insomnia !
http://www.sciencealert.com/the-brain-l ... ough-sleep

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:38 pm

Mgsnorer wrote:I don't usually chime in, but this was my experience. I feel much better with a mask that has more built in ventilation i.e. I prefer the dreamwear to the p10. I always felt sick to my stomach with the p10.

unless something was very wrong with your masks, it's not the vent rates, because, according to the manuals, the p10 has a higher vent rate than the dreamwear:

http://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents/ ... er_eng.pdf

http://www.directhomemedical.com/masks- ... ctions.pdf

20to49lpm @ 4-20cm for p10,

15to40lpm @ 4-20 for dreamwear.

Mgsnorer · Post by **Mgsnorer** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:48 pm

palerider wrote:
Mgsnorer wrote:I don't usually chime in, but this was my experience. I feel much better with a mask that has more built in ventilation i.e. I prefer the dreamwear to the p10. I always felt sick to my stomach with the p10.
unless something was very wrong with your masks, it's not the vent rates, because, according to the manuals, the p10 has a higher vent rate than the dreamwear:

http://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents/ ... er_eng.pdf

http://www.directhomemedical.com/masks- ... ctions.pdf

20to49lpm @ 4-20cm for p10,

15to40lpm @ 4-20 for dreamwear.

I agree with your stats, and perhaps there is something wrong with my p10, but when I wear the p10 mask without the cpap hose, and cover where the hose attaches with my hand, I can barely exhale with the p10, but can almost breath freely with the dream wear or the tap pap. I've cleaned it and replaced the screen part--just my experience.

hobbs · Post by **hobbs** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:25 pm

Judging by some people here; YES!

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