DST, setting clock on Airsense 10 Autoset for her

Will it delete my data?
The manual suggests as much.
Has anyone "done" it?

you should not have to set the clock on your cpap/bipap machine it should recognize that the clock goes ahead 1 hour and set the time I on its own when I got my bipap machine 4 years ago I did not have to do anything to the time I just plugged my machine in and I was good to go I am due for my new bipap machine in October of this year.

chunkyfrog wrote:Will it delete my data?
The manual suggests as much.
Has anyone "done" it?

best I understand it, and on the S9's it *IS* this way....

if you try to turn the clock back when you have data for that day, it will complain and bitch. "that day" starting at noon.

so the trick is to wait at least a couple hours after machine noon, when there's no sleep data recorded for that day, and then turn the clock back.

so, set your cpap clock back before you go to sleep, not when you wake up.

springman946 wrote:you should not have to set the clock on your cpap/bipap machine it should recognize that the clock goes ahead 1 hour and set the time I on its own when I got my bipap machine 4 years ago I did not have to do anything to the time I just plugged my machine in and I was good to go I am due for my new bipap machine in October of this year.

how would it know? answer: it doesn't.

you don't have to set the clock on your respironics machine because you *CAN'T* set it, only the factory/repair depot, with special equipment can set the clock on respironics machines.

I have done it on my S9, and nothing bad happened.
My Airsense 10 is off by an odd portion of an hour, and I have been living with it for the past 16+ months.
Now I want to fix it.

I changed the time on my Air curve 10 last fall when daylight savings time ended and didn't have any issues with my data.

chunkyfrog wrote:I have done it on my S9, and nothing bad happened.
My Airsense 10 is off by an odd portion of an hour, and I have been living with it for the past 16+ months.
Now I want to fix it.

Which way? Is the machine time "behind" or "ahead" the time on your clocks?

I was thinking of this situation about DST recently.......if I had a machine that the time could be adjusted through the setup menu......and came to the conclusion that I would leave it set to "Standard" time......all the time, instead of switching back and forth twice a year.

With mine, the Encore Pro software takes care of that by using the computer time.


Den

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It was ten minutes fast, so I rolled it back.
Maybe I'll leave it on standard time.

Interesting discussion about time change; never even considered that an XPAP machine would go batty if the user changes the time. If so, what about long distance travel? Just supposed to leave it set to your local time and have weird results if sleeping far from your normal time zone?

I know for sure that I can change my AutoSense 10 at will with no issues. I had to several times in December and January during two vacations where I was changing between my home time zone (Central) and Eastern. In January we did a 12 day trip, 11 of which were on a cruise ship, and I had to change the APAP's time several times due to moving back and forth between Central and Eastern (4 or 5 times in 12 days). Since we were at sea most of the trip, I kept the machine in the airplane mode for the entire trip. When we got back home, I switched back to the standard airplane off mode and the machine uploaded all 12 days to MyAir (I know, doesn't mean much), but Sleepyhead was also able to read all 12 days without any problems.

For long distance travel, do most XPAP users just leave the clock setting alone? As for the upcoming DST change, I would thing that either changing the clock in the afternoon either the day before, or the day after would be fine. Maybe not so good for the S9 if it likes to eat data every time there is a time change of one type or another. I know that during the previously described 12 day trip, I changed the clock's time whenever I thought about it.

Thank you very much.
Now we are all ready for Sunday.
(Those that need to be, that is)
DST is outdated, but we may never be rid of it.

chunkyfrog wrote:DST is outdated, but we may never be rid of it.

I lived in Arizona for 10 years (HATED it ) and they do not participate in DST. It was the only thing I liked about living in the desert. I especially have difficulty adjusting in the fall when we have to set the clocks back.

When I got my S10, it was set to east coast time and I got the strange message about it erasing data when I wanted to set the clock to west coast time. I just let it erase the data since I had already uploaded the card to Sleepyhead.

I don't anticipate a problem on Sunday since we will set it ahead. I believe the problem arises only when trying to set it back. Could be wrong. We'll see on Saturday.

sptrout wrote:Interesting discussion about time change; never even considered that an XPAP machine would go batty if the user changes the time. If so, what about long distance travel? Just supposed to leave it set to your local time and have weird results if sleeping far from your normal time zone? ...

From the AirSense10 Manual. Same as the S9

ResMed AirSense 10 Clinical Guide wrote: Date Set the current date.
If you set a new date that occurs in the past then an error message is
displayed. Before this change can be made, erase the compliance data
available under the Configuration menu.
DD Mmm YYYY
Time Set the current time.
If you set a new time that occurs in the past then an error message is
displayed. Before this change can be made, erase the compliance data
available under the Configuration menu.
24 hours

From a previous post

Jay Aitchsee wrote:
Safest method: Wait until after noon machine time..., before you've used the machine for that day and before midnight, then set the time back....
It appears (to me) that ResMed is trying to prevent people from altering their compliance data with their time setting policy. One can always set the time ahead, but setting it back into a period where there is data for the day could trigger the need to erase all saved data. Remember, ResMed days start at noon.
To be safe, never set the day back. Only the hours. It the day is accidentally set ahead, correct it by subtracting hours as in the instruction above (over multiple days, if necessary).

And yes, after multiple East to West Coast round trips, I find it easier just to leave it on East Coast time. It just looks like I go to bed and get up later when I'm on the West Coast.

But "springing ahead" probably won't be a problem, it's when we "fall back" that people usually run into trouble.

DST can be a hazard/misery for people who have to make their morning commute in an easterly direction.
You get sun in your eyes TWICE as long!

Jay Aitchsee wrote:

sptrout wrote:Interesting discussion about time change; never even considered that an XPAP machine would go batty if the user changes the time. If so, what about long distance travel? Just supposed to leave it set to your local time and have weird results if sleeping far from your normal time zone? ...

From the AirSense10 Manual. Same as the S9

ResMed AirSense 10 Clinical Guide wrote: Date Set the current date.
If you set a new date that occurs in the past then an error message is
displayed. Before this change can be made, erase the compliance data
available under the Configuration menu.
DD Mmm YYYY
Time Set the current time.
If you set a new time that occurs in the past then an error message is
displayed. Before this change can be made, erase the compliance data
available under the Configuration menu.
24 hours

From a previous post

Jay Aitchsee wrote:
Safest method: Wait until after noon machine time..., before you've used the machine for that day and before midnight, then set the time back....
It appears (to me) that ResMed is trying to prevent people from altering their compliance data with their time setting policy. One can always set the time ahead, but setting it back into a period where there is data for the day could trigger the need to erase all saved data. Remember, ResMed days start at noon.
To be safe, never set the day back. Only the hours. It the day is accidentally set ahead, correct it by subtracting hours as in the instruction above (over multiple days, if necessary).

And yes, after multiple East to West Coast round trips, I find it easier just to leave it on East Coast time. It just looks like I go to bed and get up later when I'm on the West Coast.

But "springing ahead" probably won't be a problem, it's when we "fall back" that people usually run into trouble.

During my two trips I went forward and backwards several times and never had a problem or any error messages. During the 12 day trip, the time went up and down several times, but I do not remember when I made the changes, but more than likely in the evening since some of the time flips were not known until 9-10PM.

The manual does not seem to match the software. I bought my AirSense in November, maybe the software has changed since the manual was written. Who knows. I agree that compliance data is likely at the bottom of all this, but not an issue for me since I am self pay with no doctor. However, I will try to remember to do like you suggest (after downloading the data - LOL).