silicone

Do the Fisher Paykel masks contain silicone
Can someone who has allergy to silicone wear one?

Most masks contain silicone. If you need a mask without silicone, your choices will be limited. The only ones I'm aware of are the Sleepweaver masks, which are made from nylon fabric.

rrt22112 wrote:Can someone who has allergy to silicone wear one?

How was the silicone allergy diagnosed?

Dig down from here: https://www.fphcare.com/sleep-apnea/masks/

I only looked at one F&P mask, but it mentioned silicone. It was down in "specifications" for that particular mask.

I suspect most of them will have silicone, but check.

Many people will say that allergy to silicone is rare or even nonexistent. However, there might be something on the silicone or even soaked into it. Try washing the silicone part really thoroughly in hot water. Some people have even put the silicone parts into a pot of boiling water with baking soda with no damage. However, some masks have silicone parts with other plastic as well, and can be damaged by the heat. You might also have a mask that looks like silicone, but isn't There are also different forms of silicone. "Silicone" is a generic term, sort of like "plastic", but made with at least some of the carbon atoms replaced by silicone.

Also be sure to consider whether what you're using to clean your mask isn't causing your problem. Some people can be allergic to fragrances or dyes or other chemicals in cleaning products. I wash my plastic mask parts in the dishwasher with regular dishwashing powder and really hot water.

Another thing to note is the fact that like stainless steel, the quality range for silicone can be quite expansive.
There is the surgical grade, used in implants, and there is bakeware from China, and a gazillion steps in between.

archangle wrote: I wash my plastic mask parts in the dishwasher with regular dishwashing powder and really hot water.

I noted you are using the Swift FX nasal pillows, archangle, but I wonder if anybody has tried putting their ResMed F10 FFM cushion on the upper rack of their dishwasher (the F10 is part plastic, part silicone that's melded/fused together somehow).

Sir NoddinOff wrote:

archangle wrote: I wash my plastic mask parts in the dishwasher with regular dishwashing powder and really hot water.

I noted you are using the Swift FX nasal pillows, archangle, but I wonder if anybody has tried putting their ResMed F10 FFM cushion on the upper rack of their dishwasher (the F10 is part plastic, part silicone that's melded/fused together somehow).

Dishwasher water probably doesn't get hot enough to damage the plastic parts of almost any mask. I'll exclude cloth or foam parts from that statement.

There is a link to ResMed's sanitation/sterilization guidelines in the Useful Links in my signature line. Please read the actual ResMed documentation for yourself, including the notes. For instance, the Mirage Swift II short tube is only good for 158ºF (70ºC). You might get that hot in a dishwasher, but it's probably unlikely.

F10 is listed as good for "158°F (70°C)-100 min; 167°F (75°C)-30 min 176°F (80°C)-10 min; 194°F (90°C)-1 min" as part of their sterilization process. Up to 20 cycles.

Your home dishwasher probably doesn't get that hot.

I presume the times listed are minimum time necessary to kill the germs, not "maximum temp before the part melts."

BTW, you can't "sterilize" anything with boiling water. There are some germs that can survive in boiling water temperature. You have to use a pressure cooker type device that pressurizes water and gets above 212F/100C. That's why home canning requires a pressure cooker. However, boiling water or even lower temperature will kill most of the harmful germs.

Uhhhh, plenty of home canning is done without any pressure cooker/canner in sight. Just sayin.......

archangle wrote:

Sir NoddinOff wrote:

archangle wrote: I wash my plastic mask parts in the dishwasher with regular dishwashing powder and really hot water.

I noted you are using the Swift FX nasal pillows, archangle, but I wonder if anybody has tried putting their ResMed F10 FFM cushion on the upper rack of their dishwasher (the F10 is part plastic, part silicone that's melded/fused together somehow).

Dishwasher water probably doesn't get hot enough to damage the plastic parts of almost any mask. I'll exclude cloth or foam parts from that statement.

There is a link to ResMed's sanitation/sterilization guidelines in the Useful Links in my signature line. Please read the actual ResMed documentation for yourself, including the notes. For instance, the Mirage Swift II short tube is only good for 158ºF (70ºC). You might get that hot in a dishwasher, but it's probably unlikely.

F10 is listed as good for "158°F (70°C)-100 min; 167°F (75°C)-30 min 176°F (80°C)-10 min; 194°F (90°C)-1 min" as part of their sterilization process. Up to 20 cycles.

Your home dishwasher probably doesn't get that hot.

I presume the times listed are minimum time necessary to kill the germs, not "maximum temp before the part melts."

BTW, you can't "sterilize" anything with boiling water. There are some germs that can survive in boiling water temperature. You have to use a pressure cooker type device that pressurizes water and gets above 212F/100C. That's why home canning requires a pressure cooker. However, boiling water or even lower temperature will kill most of the harmful germs.

Thanks for that, archangle, I'll give that a try with an older F10 cushion and report back. I don't anticipate any problems but just wanted to check first!

Gasper62 wrote:Uhhhh, plenty of home canning is done without any pressure cooker/canner in sight. Just sayin.......

Only a limited number of foods can be safely canned without a pressure cooker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_canning

Some foods can be stored for a long time without heating at all. If you want to kill all the germs with heated water, you need to use a pressure cooker.

Yeah. But. Yer statement is inaccurate as posted. I like accuracy. -- https://www.google.com/search?q=water+b ... 0Q_AUIBygC