Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

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Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by seeing you » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:56 am

Well started with pillows which were good but was mouth breathing then switched to mask but now mask is causing my tinnitus to go way up yuck
At first with pillows I felt good in the mornings but no matter what I try now I do not feel good when I get up and the mask seems to make my ears much worse which in turn works on my nerves and I have to get up. Going back to nose pillows and just deal with dry mouth when it happens and leaving machine Res Med auto set to auto climate and take what ever it puts out. Sure not enjoying this at all if it stayed as it was a few nights yes but not when I have to fight dry mouth and then when I changed to mast to try and help that still had same issues and now very high tinnitus noise in the morning time this is not helping me at all right now. I have played with humidity and hose temp to no avail can not find just the right setting and even tried turning them both off as one man suggested but still not better. Maybe I need to sleep with out machine one night then go back on machine something is just not working right for me.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:50 am

Are you trying to justify stopping treatment?
Sorry, we don't do that. No way the mask will make it worse.
Tinnitus is a nuisance, but it is harmless compared to the harm sleeping without cpap can do.
See a doctor of audiology for the tinnitus; masking or desensitization may help.
My hearing aid helps a lot.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Kam23 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:00 am

I don't see how a mask could make your tinnitus worse. Even if it did that is a small price to pay for BREATHING.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Wulfman... » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:37 pm

seeing you wrote:Well started with pillows which were good but was mouth breathing then switched to mask but now mask is causing my tinnitus to go way up yuck
At first with pillows I felt good in the mornings but no matter what I try now I do not feel good when I get up and the mask seems to make my ears much worse which in turn works on my nerves and I have to get up. Going back to nose pillows and just deal with dry mouth when it happens and leaving machine Res Med auto set to auto climate and take what ever it puts out. Sure not enjoying this at all if it stayed as it was a few nights yes but not when I have to fight dry mouth and then when I changed to mast to try and help that still had same issues and now very high tinnitus noise in the morning time this is not helping me at all right now. I have played with humidity and hose temp to no avail can not find just the right setting and even tried turning them both off as one man suggested but still not better. Maybe I need to sleep with out machine one night then go back on machine something is just not working right for me.
Read this recent thread and the links I posted.

viewtopic/t108167/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... s#p1031198

It seems to me that your perception of what tinnitus is and how you're dealing with it are not logical.


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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Zoopshine » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:50 pm

Just out of curiosity, do you suffer from high blood pressure? It's been my experience that some patients with tinnitus experience some relief by treating their hypertension. Apparently there's a link between the two. Makes sense, if your blood is roaring through your veins, why wouldn't you hear something?

I'm a little unclear as to how your XPAP could be affecting this, unless you have tubes in your ears for frequent inner ear infections. In that case, you'd possibly hear the pressurized air escaping through the tubes and XPAP may not be appropriate for you. But your post seems to indicate the problem is *after* therapy, not during. Have you spoken to your doctor about this? Do you know the underlying cause of the tinnitus?

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by seeing you » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:06 am

Tinnitus increased by mask/tinnitus louder at night. OK first thanks for your answers but with nose pillows tinnitus is not as bad but problem with dry mouth so tried mask and it seems that for what ever reason it makes tinnitus for me louder when I put it on and lay down. I am asking today if the exhale is set right for the mask seems as I breath out mask holds hot exhaled air more maybe that makes me nervous and that increases tinnitus. If you have never had it hope you never do as I am a very strong willed person very strong willed but now lately tinnitus is getting on my nerves very much. I can take a Xanax and get sleep but that is not a good pill to get use to and over time it takes more and more so do not use it unless last resort. Going to ENT they just look in your ears and say well you have to deal with it no cure. Those that claim to have some help such as S tones want close to $2000.00 for a unit about the size if a pack of cards that they will not guarantee that it will help duuu. Believe me if you do not have tinnitus you do not want it. I have read for days on internet and plenty of snake oil out there but that is all it is just trying to get your money. Now for the person that suggested I was trying to find excuse to not use c-pap well I will over look that comment because you must not have tinnitus or know much about it or me. I can handle most things that come along I am male 71 in good physical shape and have been there done that and seen it all over the years and NO I am not trying to find excuse to quit if I wanted to quit believe me I would throw the machine out the door and that would be it but I am trying to figure out how to use what I have in a better more productive way so I can sleep all night. The nights that I have slept well c-pap makes me feel very good so want to increase those events not quit. Larry

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Julie » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:05 am

You are free to experiment with heat and exhale relief settings, preferably for at least a couple of nights at each setting, so I suggest you do that, but I also wonder if once you're in bed, where it's suddenly a lot quieter than when you were up, and you're sensitive to what's going on with your mask and ears, etc, you tend to hear the tinnitus a lot more than when you're not concentrating on it (TV's on, people talking), which is not to say you're doing anything wrong, but human nature can play tricks. Is it at all possible (I'm so reaching here!) that when the mask is on, some stray hair is drawn into or against your ears by the straps and you get some kind of vibration, pulse, etc. added to the tinnitus? Have you considered trying e.g. Ambien half an hour before bed, for a few nights (not long term) to help you fall asleep more quickly and possibly get used to the whole thing enough that you eventually don't have a problem with Cpap?

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Tdub210 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:12 am

I have tinnitus. Some times it's worse than others. But I don't believe my cpap machine is affecting it at all. I find the ever so slight noise it makes from the mask seems to drown it a bit. I also use a white noise app on my phone, which I connect to a speaker that helps drown it. As I'm typing this my tinnitus is up as it has been the last few days. I really dont know if anything makes it worse or lessen, or if it's just that from time to time I'm more aware of it for some reason. I've had it a long long time so I guess I'm more or less used to it.

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Post by seeing you » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:20 pm

Tdub 210 thanks for replay along with others. I agree with you on the tinnitus mine use to go down some but now does not seem to at all but then who know tomorrow it may be down and for sure if you get your mind off it you do not hear it but then if you think of it or talk about it there it is. Now I have sleep machine but we live and work camp full time in our 5th wheel unit so I can not go to another bedroom and run sleep machine loud as I want due to wife needing to sleep. In talking to the lady that set my unit up today she suggested a setting for my humidity and tube heat so going to try that tonight and see how that does. Only way I slept last night was get up turn TV on and take .05 Xanax finally got sleepy went back to bed and got good nights rest but with out c-pap so tonight going to try that again with c-pap and if it works then tomorrow night will cut back to .25 for two nights then off it do not want to stay on it too long. Will in time figure it out but all your info from everyone helps out thanks again. Larry

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Denial Dave » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:37 am

I've got fairly high pressures.... 19 IPAP and 14.4 EPAP with a Mirage Quattro FFM.

My tinnitus was dramatically reduced after I started CPAP therapy. The volume level on our TV got turned way down after about 2 months of CPAP use.



I do notice that the buzzing seems to get louder when I am very tired in the evening.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by sptrout » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:54 am

I have had tinnitus for about 35 years, long before by CPAP'in days started in April. It just started one day and has never stopped. CPAP has made no difference, not surprised, since nothing has ever changed it.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:11 am

I have had tinnitus for over ten years.
Here is more information:
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/unde ... -treatment

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:12 am

EDIT: I JUST NOTED THAT YOU CAN'T USE A SOUND GENERATOR SINCE YOU'RE SLEEPING IN A 5TH WHEEL CAMPER WITH YOUR PARTNER... IGNORE WHAT I WROTE BELOW.
I use a natural sounds and white noise generator, it's works fine and nicely masks my tinnitus.

http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Ecotones-Du ... 759&sr=1-1

There are cheaper ones too and I have one of those for a backup, most are around thirty dollars. About the only issue, IMO, is whether you have to sleep in a room with another person, and will they find the extra noise relaxing and be able to sleep with it? There are, of course, under the pillow speakers for that issue. Better quality pharmacies often have them, so that allows you to test them out.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by 49er » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:23 am

seeing you wrote:Well started with pillows which were good but was mouth breathing then switched to mask but now mask is causing my tinnitus to go way up yuck
At first with pillows I felt good in the mornings but no matter what I try now I do not feel good when I get up and the mask seems to make my ears much worse which in turn works on my nerves and I have to get up. Going back to nose pillows and just deal with dry mouth when it happens and leaving machine Res Med auto set to auto climate and take what ever it puts out. Sure not enjoying this at all if it stayed as it was a few nights yes but not when I have to fight dry mouth and then when I changed to mast to try and help that still had same issues and now very high tinnitus noise in the morning time this is not helping me at all right now. I have played with humidity and hose temp to no avail can not find just the right setting and even tried turning them both off as one man suggested but still not better. Maybe I need to sleep with out machine one night then go back on machine something is just not working right for me.
Hi Seeing You,

As one who got a "tinnitus gift" from being on psych meds, I greatly empathize with your situation. By the way, I hope you're not taking any meds that could be causing this problem. If you are, please see your doctor about the possibility of taking something else or discontinuing them completely.

Anyway, as far as I know cpap doesn't worsen tinnitus so you might want to look at other ways to mitigate it. Not sleeping without the machine is not a good option although again, I understand your frustrations.

Best of luck.

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Re: Nothing working mask made tinnitus worse

Post by davesos » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:46 pm

The CPAP is also making my tinnitus worse as well as ear fullness. I haven't noticed much of a difference with different masks, though. Please let me know if you find something that works. A doctor did state that it could be due to the ears being oversensitive to sound (and pressure?) causing the ears to swell for protection.