Dreamwear. An elbow not a 'ball and socket'?

[Controlshift]

Does anyone else wish the Dreamwear mask has a ball and socket type attachment instead of the elbow.
When I move in my sleep of the hose doesn't want to be at right angles to my head it put pressure on the joint
Popping it out once

[LSAT]

Wishing won't make it happen...most masks have the elbow.

[Grace~~~]

Wishing won't make it happen...most masks have the elbow.

LOL

I am not sure if *I* even know for sure what a 'ball and socket' is?
(can I now blame sleep apnea and not blondness?)

I guess ControlShift needs to ask {*someone*} how much a mask with a ball and socket would cost?
... and a minimum order?


It's kinda like wishing for the tooth fairy.
More contractual wishing?

(I love being a contractual wishing fiduciary!)


***I'd like to know that too <if you find out ControlShift?>
How much would you think it would be WORTH above the elbow 'that most masks have?'

I have NO IDEA as yet how to value anything XPAP.

[jimsp1]

I use a hose hanger so that the hose comes from above and elbow works just fine. I imagine if it came from the side it might be more of a problem.

[palerider]

Does anyone else wish the Dreamwear mask has a ball and socket type attachment instead of the elbow.
When I move in my sleep of the hose doesn't want to be at right angles to my head it put pressure on the joint
Popping it out once

just how would that work, and still maintain unrestricted airflow?

[RogerSC]

I'm currently using a Tap Pap that does have the ball and socket joint (actually it's more like a swivel, but allows more movement than a simple swivel). It just doesn't work very well. When I'm first lying down for the night, the ball and socket moves with jerks instead of smoothly, and it makes noise and it's disruptive when the tubing from the mask jerks and it hits me in the head as a result of the sudden movement *smile*. I really don't see that it improves my experience with the mask...those plastic ball and socket joints aren't really all they're cracked up to be. Or maybe it's just the poorly made one on the Tap Pap. Even using a hose hanger doesn't help a lot, it still bothers me.

After a little research, I might try some KY Jelly, Blixtex, or olive oil to lubricate that stupid joint *smile*. I haven't done that yet, since I was looking for a low-impact lubricant since the joint is in my airflow path.

[Gasper62]

I've often wondered why a simple, shop-type air hose can have an "any way" swivel, but PAP hoses/masks can not. Don't make good sense ! After all.... they're really not all that complex in design. >>> Link to example : http://public.snapon.com/R_RRD/Objects_ ... YA502M.jpg

[Goofproof]

I've been using elbow equipt cpap masks fot 11 years, only had one elbow come out of a mask, that was from trying to force the hose off the elbow. My fault for not knowing it acts like chinese finger handcuffs, we had as kids.

I run the hose over my headboard, over my head. I move all over like rover in my sleep, never have a problem with hose control, but I stopped doing gymastics in bed long ago. Jim

[chunkyfrog]

I believe the Easyfit Silkgel masks from DeVillBiss have a ball joint at the elbow.
This gives the connection more flexibility than a straight 360 degree swivel.
Of course, this kind of feature is proprietary to a particular maker;
and is not available on other brands of masks.

[Controlshift]

I'll give a hose hanger a go until Philips take note of my post and fit a ball and socket joint

[palerider]

I'll give a hose hanger a go until Philips take note of my post and fit a ball and socket joint

I wouldn't advise holding your breath.

[library lady]

My F10 has an elbow that swivels... is that a combo elbow/ball? Seriously though, I also hang it on my headboard and that keeps the hose where I want it.

[tlohse]

I think a ball and socket would be something like your hip where your leg meets your body. I don't know of any CPAP'S that have anything like that.

[Controlshift]

I wouldn't advise holding your breath.

That's what got me here

[marnne108]

Does anyone else wish the Dreamwear mask has a ball and socket type attachment instead of the elbow.
When I move in my sleep of the hose doesn't want to be at right angles to my head it put pressure on the joint
Popping it out once

just how would that work, and still maintain unrestricted airflow?

Palerider hit the nail on the head. The elbow is part of the two vent system on this mask. A ball and socket wouldn't work without some venting system in place. Not sure how that could be done.