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Katherinefulmer: /* Fully data capable autoPAPs */

2009-11-06T19:04:16Z

‎Fully data capable autoPAPs

Katherinefulmer: /* Fully data capable autoPAPs */

2009-11-06T19:03:33Z

‎Fully data capable autoPAPs

Katherinefulmer: /* Fully data capable autoPAPs */

2009-11-06T18:32:41Z

‎Fully data capable autoPAPs

Katherinefulmer: /* A Rebuttal - reasons to Use APAP */

2009-11-06T17:38:58Z

‎A Rebuttal - reasons to Use APAP

Katherinefulmer: /* Fully data capable autoPAPs */

2009-11-06T17:24:02Z

‎Fully data capable autoPAPs

Katherinefulmer: /* Discussion threads on switching from CPAP to APAP */

2009-11-05T15:26:04Z

‎Discussion threads on switching from CPAP to APAP

Katherinefulmer at 15:26, 3 November 2009

2009-11-03T15:26:33Z

Katherinefulmer at 15:26, 3 November 2009

2009-11-03T15:26:14Z

Katherinefulmer: /* Advantages of APAP */

2009-11-03T01:23:53Z

‎Advantages of APAP

Katherinefulmer: /* APAP Comparison Chart */

2009-11-02T20:18:23Z

‎APAP Comparison Chart

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-a] Intellipap with smart code makes it possible to get a lot of data w/o software.You are quite welcome. Another important marketing feature is the online data capability, either from you, or DeVilbiss. For those of us who are Mac users ( I have a Windows partition as well on my desktop Mac), it is crucial, as none of the software packages are Mac compatible. Same goes for Linux users. So, for all of us, it is a great option so as to monitor compliance without despoiling their computers with Windows. - from CPAPtalk mamber AutoPAPDude, David.
+a] [[Intellipap]]
 b] Resmed S8 II AutoSet

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-a] Intellipap with smart code makes it possible to get a lot of data w/o software.
+a] Intellipap with smart code makes it possible to get a lot of data w/o software.You are quite welcome. Another important marketing feature is the online data capability, either from you, or DeVilbiss. For those of us who are Mac users ( I have a Windows partition as well on my desktop Mac), it is crucial, as none of the software packages are Mac compatible. Same goes for Linux users. So, for all of us, it is a great option so as to monitor compliance without despoiling their computers with Windows. - from CPAPtalk mamber AutoPAPDude, David.
 b] Resmed S8 II AutoSet

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-a] Resmed S8 II AutoSet
+a] Intellipap with smart code makes it possible to get a lot of data w/o software.
-b] Resmed S8 AutoSet Vantage
+c] Resmed S8 AutoSet Vantage
-c] Respironics M Series Auto w/A-Flex
+d] Respironics M Series Auto w/A-Flex
-d] Respironics M Series Auto w/C-Flex
+e] Respironics M Series Auto w/C-Flex
-e] Puritan Bennett GoodKnight 420E
+f] Puritan Bennett GoodKnight 420E
 You will get just as good therapy w/the CPAPs as you will w/the autoPAPs - but the autoPAPs are like two in one as they can be used in CPAP mode as well as auto mode. The DATA CAPABILITY is THE important issue, more so than auto or not.

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 ) Many conventional (fixed-pressure) CPAPs offer the same data reporting capability that some APAP machines offer. Data reporting CPAP machines give the same advantages without the added cost or complexity of similar APAP machines.
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-) There is no evidence that supports the conclusion that OSA treatment is more effective if the pressure is adjusted based on body position, sleep stage, nasal congestion, fatigue, etc.
+Read the Full Artcle Here: [[Reasons to Use APAP - A rebuttal]]
 == APAP Comparison Chart ==

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 a] Resmed S8 II AutoSet
 b] Resmed S8 AutoSet Vantage
 c] Respironics M Series Auto w/A-Flex
 d] Respironics M Series Auto w/C-Flex
 e] Puritan Bennett GoodKnight 420E

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 Some people on APAP use their titrated pressure as their lowest setting and go up 2 or 3 cm/H2O to catch events. For example, if the titrated pressure is 10 cm/H2O, the range is 10 to 12 or 13 cm/H2O. Again, work with your doctor, based on your titration study and health conditions.
-=Discussion threads on switching from CPAP to APAP=
+=Outside Resources=
 http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t27646/Is-APAP-really-quotbetterquot-than-CPAP.html

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	== Advantages of APAP ==		== Advantages of APAP ==
		+	APAP is super!

	1. An APAP machine offers two machines in one. It can be set to a straight CPAP mode, giving the advantages of a constant pressure plus the other advantages of APAP, adjustable pressures and home titration. There are two considerations: your best MACHINE and your best THERAPY (use of the machine). Your best MACHINE may be APAP, since APAP with software allows you to try out both the straight CPAP and APAP therapy modes, as well as check your initial sleep lab titration and make any needed pressure adjustments in the future without repeating a sleep study. By trying both, you can find the best THERAPY, either CPAP or APAP.		1. An APAP machine offers two machines in one. It can be set to a straight CPAP mode, giving the advantages of a constant pressure plus the other advantages of APAP, adjustable pressures and home titration. There are two considerations: your best MACHINE and your best THERAPY (use of the machine). Your best MACHINE may be APAP, since APAP with software allows you to try out both the straight CPAP and APAP therapy modes, as well as check your initial sleep lab titration and make any needed pressure adjustments in the future without repeating a sleep study. By trying both, you can find the best THERAPY, either CPAP or APAP.

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	See the best selling APAP machines at this online DME for self-paying customers at https://www.cpap.com/cpap-user-preference.php		See the best selling APAP machines at this online DME for self-paying customers at https://www.cpap.com/cpap-user-preference.php
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		+	===Fully data capable autoPAPs===
		+	a] Resmed S8 II AutoSet
		+	b] Resmed S8 AutoSet Vantage
		+	c] Respironics M Series Auto w/A-Flex
		+	d] Respironics M Series Auto w/C-Flex
		+	e] Puritan Bennett GoodKnight 420E
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		+	You will get just as good therapy w/the CPAPs as you will w/the autoPAPs - but the autoPAPs are like two in one as they can be used in CPAP mode as well as auto mode. The DATA CAPABILITY is THE important issue, more so than auto or not.
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		+	When shopping the local DME suppliers they most likely are going to whip out a bare bone, compliance data capable only device. You can counter by asking for one of the autos. Most likely they aren't gonna wanna provide one. But if you mention the importance of the data capabilities to you that gives them the negotiating room to offer you a fully data capable CPAP. Voila! You should both be happy!
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		+	Understand that most all insurances pay by HCPCS code, NOT by brand or model. And when insurances contract w/local DME suppliers they agree on one set reimbursement fee for that HCPCS code E0601 CPAP. AND autoPAPs are coded as HCPCS E0601 (as well as the CPAPs). The catch is that, of course, the bare bone, compliance data only CPAP "costs" the DME supplier less to buy than the fully data capable autoPAPs. So most protect their profit margin by foisting off as many bare bones, compliance data only CPAPs as they can on unsuspecting new CPAP clients.
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		+	When shopping the local DME suppliers be sure to inquire about their mask exchange policy. You will want one that has a lenient mask exchange policy.
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		+	And another little secret most local DME suppliers would prefer you not know: Resmed, Respironics and Fisher & Paykel all provide FREE mask exchanges to the local DME suppliers most all of their masks that a client has tried and not been successful w/IF the DME fills out a form and returns that mask W/IN 30 DAYS.
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		+	Now, just because so many of us in the forums have encountered lousy local DME suppliers (the reason many of us are here), there ARE GOOD local DME suppliers out there. DON'T go in w/a chip on your shoulder EXPECTING them to try to take advantage of you. Keep an open mind, but be prepared.
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		+	Be FIRM, be DIPLOMATIC, be TACTFUL, but be FIRM. YOU are the one paying for this equipment, whether thru insurance OR out of pocket. No difference. W/o YOU they miss out on a lucrative sale. YOU are going to be sleeping w/this device for the next 5 years.
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		+	If you have problems getting the machine you want and/or you are trying to upgrade your machine and/or your doctor isn't interested in your therapy:
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		+	There IS the possibility that your insurance is only contracted w/this one local DME supplier and your sleep lab MAY have checked w/your insurance and THAT is why your equipment order was sent to that particular DME supplier.
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		+	When - and IF - you see this doctor again be sure to diplomatically express your disappointment that she isn't interested enough in your therapy to want that data from a fully data capable CPAP to assist her in monitoring your CPAP therapy.
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		+	Meanwhile, call your insurance company and ask THEM what local DME CPAP suppliers they are contracted with. Hopefully, you have the option of more than just this one. And ask what local sleep labs/clinics they are contracted with. Again, hopefully you will have the option of more than just this one.

	=Ideas for APAP users to discuss with their doctors=		=Ideas for APAP users to discuss with their doctors=