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Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:43 pm
by Stevoreno_55
Guest:

Good luck trying to get in touch with someone at Philips Respironics after your machine's warranty has expired. I've been there; tried to do that; couldn't do it. For that reason I'm considering a ResMed machine; at least their customer service department will accept calls from patients. They won't stay on the phone all day with you but they will take your call. I can't say the same for Philips Respironics.



Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/05/14

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:59 pm
by Guest
Good Luck trying to get your Re$med to work on 12V when the next hurricane blows out the power for you. Yea that will cost an extra $100 bucks just for the cord. Pretty soon you will be talking real money. Have fun.

ps. fwiw - You and me are supposed to go thru the DME for service.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:01 pm
by StuUnderPressure
Stevoreno_55 wrote:the tech said the standard water chamber that came with the ResMed H5i humidifier did not have a lid that could be removed;
Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/05/14


That must be an old video.

The NON Dishwasher Safe water tank also now comes with a removable top.
But, it is made out of aluminun, while the Dishwasher Safe tank is made out of stainless steel.

Also, the Dishwasher safe tank has the gasket on a separate piece just for the gasket. You can put everything else in the dishwasher except that piece with the gasket. But I have never seen any deterioation of the gasket by putting it in the dishwasher.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:06 pm
by StuUnderPressure
Guest wrote:Kind of odd that money grubbing Resmed will not sell a "new machine" with the dishwasher safe water chamber but make you spend more money to get it.

No not really odd at all, it is their business plan = Rob your customers, pick their pockets clean.

For that reason alone I would go with Respironics, period.


That is NOT correct.

You CAN order the ResMed H5i humidifier WITH the dishwasher safe water tank from the DME for the SAME price. I have done it for myself & also helped 2 others do the same thing. There is a separate ResMed Number to order it that way.

I do see however, that CPAP.com does price it separately.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:46 pm
by Stevoreno_55
Guest wrote:Good Luck trying to get your Re$med to work on 12V when the next hurricane blows out the power for you. Yea that will cost an extra $100 bucks just for the cord. Pretty soon you will be talking real money. Have fun.

ps. fwiw - You and me are supposed to go thru the DME for service.
Guest:

Were your comments directed towards me? I am dealing with a DME; whatcha talkin' about Willis? As for the power going out; if it does my home switches over to natural gas power; had that put in after Katrina.


Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/05/14

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:52 pm
by Stevoreno_55
StuUnderPressure wrote:
Stevoreno_55 wrote:the tech said the standard water chamber that came with the ResMed H5i humidifier did not have a lid that could be removed;
Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/05/14


That must be an old video.

The NON Dishwasher Safe water tank also now comes with a removable top.
But, it is made out of aluminun, while the Dishwasher Safe tank is made out of stainless steel.

Also, the Dishwasher safe tank has the gasket on a separate piece just for the gasket. You can put everything else in the dishwasher except that piece with the gasket. But I have never seen any deterioation of the gasket by putting it in the dishwasher.
I believe the video was labeled 2013; not sure of it but it was very informative; about 15 minutes long.


Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/05/14

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:50 pm
by Guest
StuUnderPressure wrote:
Guest wrote:Kind of odd that money grubbing Resmed will not sell a "new machine" with the dishwasher safe water chamber but make you spend more money to get it.

No not really odd at all, it is their business plan = Rob your customers, pick their pockets clean.

For that reason alone I would go with Respironics, period.


That is NOT correct.

You CAN order the ResMed H5i humidifier WITH the dishwasher safe water tank from the DME for the SAME price. I have done it for myself & also helped 2 others do the same thing. There is a separate ResMed Number to order it that way.

I do see however, that CPAP com does price it separately.
So good luck coaching Stevo on how to do this.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:42 pm
by Stevoreno_55
Guest wrote:
StuUnderPressure wrote:
Guest wrote:Kind of odd that money grubbing Resmed will not sell a "new machine" with the dishwasher safe water chamber but make you spend more money to get it.

No not really odd at all, it is their business plan = Rob your customers, pick their pockets clean.

For that reason alone I would go with Respironics, period.


That is NOT correct.

You CAN order the ResMed H5i humidifier WITH the dishwasher safe water tank from the DME for the SAME price. I have done it for myself & also helped 2 others do the same thing. There is a separate ResMed Number to order it that way.

I do see however, that CPAP com does price it separately.
So good luck coaching Stevo on how to do this.
Stevo's got a handle on this; why don't you go run along and annoy somebody else.



Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/06/14

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:24 am
by Rob1
Considering that it is distilled water, I really do not see any sense in replacing it so early. I just leave it in and refill if necessary. Especially because you are buying distilled water (not expensive, but it adds up) I just feel that it should be alright regardless.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:05 pm
by xyz
r:
> Considering that it is distilled water, I really do not see any sense in replacing it so early.

Because all the _air_ that passes over it, and through your humidifier, has stuff in it. It's no longer pure distilled water after air has passed over it for a while.

Depending on where you live (geographically), that varies greatly. Think dust, allergens, pollen, etc.

Depending on the age and condition of your home, it varies greatly also. Think dust, mildew mold, etc.

So some will have very little and some will have lots.

And some will be allergy prone, and some will not.

There is no one-size-fits-all. The lesson to take out of this is to be aware.

If you are allergy prone, live in an area with lots of dust and allergens, and live in an old home that has dust/mildew/mold, don't ignore the issues. Take appropriate precautions.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 3:21 pm
by Stevoreno_55
xyz wrote:r:
> Considering that it is distilled water, I really do not see any sense in replacing it so early.

Because all the _air_ that passes over it, and through your humidifier, has stuff in it. It's no longer pure distilled water after air has passed over it for a while.

Depending on where you live (geographically), that varies greatly. Think dust, allergens, pollen, etc.

Depending on the age and condition of your home, it varies greatly also. Think dust, mildew mold, etc.

So some will have very little and some will have lots.

And some will be allergy prone, and some will not.

There is no one-size-fits-all. The lesson to take out of this is to be aware.

If you are allergy prone, live in an area with lots of dust and allergens, and live in an old home that has dust/mildew/mold, don't ignore the issues. Take appropriate precautions.
I couldn't have said it better myself since distilled water is so cheap. If it was $5.00 a gallon I would still continue to do what I'm doing now because I want to continue doing my part to take care of my machine. Distilled water is much cheaper than the cost of a new machine.



Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/07/14

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:04 pm
by Wulfman...
xyz wrote:r:
> Considering that it is distilled water, I really do not see any sense in replacing it so early.

Because all the _air_ that passes over it, and through your humidifier, has stuff in it. It's no longer pure distilled water after air has passed over it for a while.

Depending on where you live (geographically), that varies greatly. Think dust, allergens, pollen, etc.

Depending on the age and condition of your home, it varies greatly also. Think dust, mildew mold, etc.

So some will have very little and some will have lots.

And some will be allergy prone, and some will not.

There is no one-size-fits-all. The lesson to take out of this is to be aware.

If you are allergy prone, live in an area with lots of dust and allergens, and live in an old home that has dust/mildew/mold, don't ignore the issues. Take appropriate precautions.
That's quite possibly the biggest pile of garbage, illogical innuendo and nonsense I've ever read on this subject.
ALL CPAP machines have FILTERS......ALL have optional (secondary) FINE FILTERS.......both of which need to be cleaned and/or replaced periodically. If anything gets past those filters, it falls into the water in the humidifier tank and STAYS THERE. NOTHING can be "carried" out of the HH tank.......ONLY water vapor.

Question to ask oneself:
What do the users (and the rest of the family) breathe the other 16 hours of the day?

If your dwelling is THAT "toxic", you'd better get your ass out of there, because you're breathing much better air while you're sleeping than when you're not.


Den

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Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:45 pm
by Nueva words
Use the remaining water on your house plants mine are blooming and going crazy over the distiller water:)

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:22 pm
by xyz
That's quite a rant. Perhaps the meds will be working better today.

Paragraph one:
You are factually, objectively, and technically incorrect.

Paragraph two:
air, of course.

Paragraph three:
You have quite an imagination. I never said that my house was toxic. I was speaking in general about the _range_ of conditions. Perhaps you ought to go back and read that again when your blood pressure is lower.

And also google "indoor pollution".


This thread is about dumping leftover humidifier water.

The safest thing to do is 1) use distilled water and 2) dump out the remainder every morning.

Not everyone will need to do that.
Some will.

But here's an important point: This is a three cents per day decision!


a gallon of distilled water costs around $1 (+/-)

a gallon is 16 cups

cost per cup: around 6 cents

put 1 cup distilled water in the humidifier

1/2 cup left in the morning

_three cents worth_ !

Sounds like a smart bet to me.

Re: Humidifier Water - Do You Dump Remaining Each Morning?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:35 pm
by Stevoreno_55
xyz wrote:That's quite a rant. Perhaps the meds will be working better today.

Paragraph one:
You are factually, objectively, and technically incorrect.

Paragraph two:
air, of course.

Paragraph three:
You have quite an imagination. I never said that my house was toxic. I was speaking in general about the _range_ of conditions. Perhaps you ought to go back and read that again when your blood pressure is lower.

And also google "indoor pollution".


This thread is about dumping leftover humidifier water.

The safest thing to do is 1) use distilled water and 2) dump out the remainder every morning.

Not everyone will need to do that.
Some will.

But here's an important point: This is a three cents per day decision!


a gallon of distilled water costs around $1 (+/-)

a gallon is 16 cups

cost per cup: around 6 cents

put 1 cup distilled water in the humidifier

1/2 cup left in the morning

_three cents worth_ !

Sounds like a smart bet to me.
That's a good post; literally. Why is it so many think distilled water is expensive? It's not a gallon of Dairy Fresh milk at Winn Dixie for $5.89 a gallon; it's distilled water which sells for $0.88 a gallon at my Winn Dixie and $0.84 at Walmart. Some have commented it is a big deal; some have commented they were cheap for not wanting to empty their water every day; don't empty your water every day if you don't want to but don't whine about distilled water costing so much.

I empty my water out every day; you can pour it on your plants; pour it down the drain; pour it down the commode; whatever but it's so cheap it's not a big deal. I use a gallon of distilled water each week; that's $0.88 spent for the water I need for my machine; $0.88. If it was $2.88 a gallon I still wouldn't complain because it's part of the cost for me having to be on CPAP. If you want to complain about something; complain about spending $10.00 for a postage stamp sized reusable foam filter for your CPAP machine unless your insurance pays for one; mine fortunately does.



Stevoreno_55
MS Gulf Coast
05/08/14