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Put the sad card in your PC and click usual and it should be fine. It's not as complicated as it seems. Good luck

It's acting just like it did last night, when I hadn't had the SD card in the machine the night before........except I did have it in last night. Plus now it sometimes says I need to format the card.
This is going to take some more work. But I'm taking my car in to get serviced. Plus, I have to clean out my water softener 'cause it quit working. You know how it goes......everything seems to mess up at once. Hopefully, it's just a solar flare and will pass.
So I'll be back later!

The S9 is saying it needs to reformat the card?
or is the computer asking you if you want to?
It would really help to know exactly who/what is prompting you to reformat the card...the computer shouldn't but there is a normal little pop up that gets activated every time you slide the SD card into the computer that people sometimes see and get confused about.

Since you say you couldn't get last nights data to import I was assuming the SD card was still in the computer and you weren't doing anything with the SD card yet...unless you tried reinserting the SD card back into the S9 and then you were getting the message there.

SleepyHead won't prompt for a format of the SD card. Nothing in it at all that does that.
Windows will have a pop up that will ask you what do you want to do with the SD card you inserted and one of the first choices is to reformat...there are other choices too..if that is what you are seeing...close the box out..it isn't needed...just ignore it.

Okay. I tried it again and it said No data. So I took the SD card back to the cpap machine and put it back in. then I took it back out to the computer and it downloaded the data! Is that normal.........that when I get up in the morning, I have to take the SD card out and put it back in, and then take it out again before it can be downloaded to the computer??

No, that is not a normal sequence to have to go through.
Maybe it was computer gremlins.
Are you turning the machine off in AM and immediately removing the SD card or waiting at least a couple of minutes for it to finish writing to the SD card and closing out files?

Well, I turn it off right before taking off my mask. Then later, I turn off the power at the power strip.

I turn the machine off right before removing mask too but I don't power off the machine and I don't pull the SD card for review until later in the day.
Some people turn the machine off and immediately pull the SD card. That can mess up the writing to the SD card if it gets pulled before machine is finished.

Maybe it was just the aliens or gremlins messing with you...they do that when they have a new person to play with.

I don't think powering off the machine later in the day affects the SD card though...so if you want to do that go ahead.
I don't bother because it isn't needed.

Pugsy.......when you say "turn off the machine"......you mean pressing the button the left that makes it go on and off, right?
And by "turning off the power"......do you mean maybe unplugging it or turning off the power at a power strip?

It wouldn't turn off after you press the button, if it wasn't done putting data on the SD card, right?

Yep.....you're right about the gremlins. They're not just in my machine or Sleepyhead.......they're in my computer, my car, my water softener, and many other places!
I must be a good target for them.

Country4ever wrote:It wouldn't turn off after you press the button, if it wasn't done putting data on the SD card, right?

The S9 when it still has electric power to it stays in sort of stand by mode.
When you push the button to turn it off...it just quits blowing but does not really turn off. It will continue to blow at a low pressure to dry out the hose. The hose drying out blowing doesn't show up on your SD card but will show up as hours of use under the machine run hours. Doesn't affect therapy hours...run hours and therapy hours are 2 different things.
The machine doesn't write to the SD card until you push the button to turn it off and it takes a couple of minutes I guess for it do finish writing to the SD card and if you push button to turn it off and immediately reach to remove the SD card then there is a good chance you will mess up the SD card pulling it out too soon.

Powering off...that means total power off and not just pushing the button to put it back in stand by mode. So unplugging the machine or if using a power strip turning the power switch off at the power strip/surge protector level.

So when I turn it off...I just push the button to stop the big blower...and I let it run for about 45 minutes to do its drying of the hose thing...and then if I had a mind to I would power off at power strip or unplug at the machine.
It really isn't needed to be done that way but doesn't hurt anything to do it.

Main thing is that you allow enough time for the S9 to finish writing to the SD card and it does that in stand by mode while the hose is drying.
So I usually tell people to wait at least 5 minutes though it probably doesn't take that long, so that all the writing to the SD card is completed and there's no chance of premature removal of the SD card causing a damaged file.

Thanks Pugsy.

I can't remember exactly how I did it this morning, but tomorrow I'll let it cool down for awhile before I take the card out. If that doesn't work, I'll put the card back in, like I did today, and see if it uploads then. If so.......maybe I have a problem? Or maybe I just have to do it that way?

I'm trying to capture what I call the premature pulsing in-between breaths when I'm awake......but I can't really see it on the Sleepyhead graphs. But I'm a long way from really knowing how to look at those graphs.
At least I'm making a little progress. And I do like the machine now. I guess it's when I'm in a neurotic mode that those pulsations bug me. And I'm hesitant to take it into Lincare, because I honestly don't think she'd know how to test for that. I still need to call Resmed and maybe talk to one of the engineers. But.....at least I seem to be sleeping good again!

Well, I waited at least an hour to pull the card out, with the machine powering down, and I got data off the card! YAY!

Next question.........I'm still feeling that pulsation after 4-5 seconds of not taking a breath.......which is often a normal pause for me when I'm awake.
I'm trying to figure out where I can see this on Sleepyhead. On his You Tube video, I can see little rapid waveforms on his stuff when it kicks in, but I can't seem to find it on mine.
I'm POSITIVE it's doing the pulsing stuff. Any suggestions on how/where to see it happening?
Thanks!

I repeat....FOT should NOT be what you are feeling while awake. Not saying it is impossible but it is unlikely because you need a significant flow reduction that the machine thinks that it might be some sort of unknown event materializing before FOT is ever triggered. FOT is not something that happens continually all the time with the pressure. It only happens when the machine is having trouble deciding if the reduction in air flow is caused by collapse of the tissues (obstructive in nature) or the airway is open (central in nature).
So you would first need a flow reduction to look at and that shouldn't happen with normal awake breathing.

To check for FOT you have to zoom in on the flow rate graph so that you see each individual breath and a flow reduction and maybe FOT shows up as a tiny fuzzy line during the reduction.

So you would need to zoom in on the very beginning of your flow rate graph and look for flow reductions with the individual breaths.

When I have some time today I will see if I can find an example from back when I was using the S9 VPAP to show you.

Unless you have rather significant pauses between inhale and exhale I just don't see how FOT can be triggered.

Okay, here are some examples. It takes some zooming in but being careful not to zoom in too far and knowing what to look for. Finally, a couple of questions....supposed you do see FOT because your breathing is maybe confusing the machine...what are you prepared to do about it? If you don't see FOT what are you prepared to do about it?

This is sort of a normal view for breath by breath...I circled FOT..tiny fuzzy line
The reduction in air flow is easily seen...flat line.


and a zoomed in even further view to show FOT...see the precise little peaks...


A beginning of the night breath by breath...note the change in the breaths from awake to asleep...No reduction in air flow..no flat lines or hint of flat lines


And a zoomed in further image of the Awake breathing....no FOT anywhere..no flat lines either . The raggedness we see is just normal raggedness..not the precise pointed peaks that FOT delivers.

Pugsy.....how do I get those images onto here? I'm assuming I have to go through my photobucket, right? But still, how do I get it there? Thanks. I would like to show you the beginning of my flow rate when I'm still awake. I think you'll see the FOT waveforms....

How to post images here on the forum is explained here.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=81072&p=737779#p737779

Don't mistake zoomed in raggedness for FOT peaks. The difference is subtle but there is a difference.

But even if your breathing is confusing the machine and FOT is kicking in..what can we do about it?
You could maybe try a different S9 but most likely it will do the same thing.
I suppose it is not impossible that the machine is faulty but that would be extremely rare if it was.

Do you know how to use some place like dropbox where you could copy your SD card and I could go get it and put it on a SD card and look at what you are looking at?
Since you don't have much data on your SD card you might be able to send the entire contents to me in an email as an attachment if it isn't too big. I would have to have an exact copy though to get it to work. I haven't been able to figure out the file structure on the SD card to just do the data files. It's just easier to copy the entire SD card (the one big folder).