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mgaggie wrote:Never thought my reply would generate so much discussion. I will stand by what I said in my first post, the OP sounded like a two year old having a tantrum, no apologies. IMO there are ways of asking for help, chucking a tanty isn't going to get you the help you really need, but if you ask calmly and politely I find people are more prepared to go that extra mile to help.

Anyway, I would welcome back the OP.

A lot of people start that way. Keep in mind that most people have to work through the stages of grief. Many arrive her with a combo of denial and anger. If we push them all away with a negative response, they may leave and never master this treatment. If we accept them where they are, they often warm up to the treatment, get it to start working, and then improve their help and become another great person helping new people.

We have the opportunity to change their perspective and improve their health. I am so grateful to the people who helped me here (and continue to help me and keep me on track without even knowing it) that I want to help others succeed as much as possible.

I remember swearing at my mask night after night, knowing it could fit but not being able to do it. The people here helped me position it better and told me about smaller headgear which my DME tried to say didn't exist. I would have mastered my mask without the help here.

mgaggie wrote:Never thought my reply would generate so much discussion. I will stand by what I said in my first post, the OP sounded like a two year old having a tantrum, no apologies. IMO there are ways of asking for help, chucking a tanty isn't going to get you the help you really need, but if you ask calmly and politely I find people are more prepared to go that extra mile to help.

Anyway, I would welcome back the OP.

It's really the other way around . When someone comes here sleepless, frightened and with high anxiety, it falls on us to respond calmly and politely to relieve the tension so the OP realizes we're here to help and can absorb what we're suggesting. I can think of quite a few people who started out ranting and raving, (I was one of them but I was lucky to have a few private mentors who patiently dealt with my rants and lost some hair doing it!). The last thing we want to do is chase them away with negative comments.

DoriC wrote:It's really the other way around . When someone comes here sleepless, frightened and with high anxiety, it falls on us to respond calmly and politely to relieve the tension so the OP realizes we're here to help and can absorb what we're suggesting. ... The last thing we want to do is chase them away with negative comments.

Well said Dori!!

DoriC wrote: It's really the other way around . When someone comes here sleepless, frightened and with high anxiety, it falls on us to respond calmly and politely to relieve the tension so the OP realizes we're here to help and can absorb what we're suggesting. I can think of quite a few people who started out ranting and raving, (I was one of them but I was lucky to have a few private mentors who patiently dealt with my rants and lost some hair doing it!). The last thing we want to do is chase them away with negative comments.

+1

DoriC wrote:

mgaggie wrote:Never thought my reply would generate so much discussion. I will stand by what I said in my first post, the OP sounded like a two year old having a tantrum, no apologies. IMO there are ways of asking for help, chucking a tanty isn't going to get you the help you really need, but if you ask calmly and politely I find people are more prepared to go that extra mile to help.

Anyway, I would welcome back the OP.

It's really the other way around . When someone comes here sleepless, frightened and with high anxiety, it falls on us to respond calmly and politely to relieve the tension so the OP realizes we're here to help and can absorb what we're suggesting. I can think of quite a few people who started out ranting and raving, (I was one of them but I was lucky to have a few private mentors who patiently dealt with my rants and lost some hair doing it!). The last thing we want to do is chase them away with negative comments.

Of course!

madwax wrote: I think if I quit breathing I would know.

madwax, we can all relate to your frustration. I too insisted to my doctor that I was sure I was sleeping well during the night, even though my girlfriend provided many horror stories about my snoring, stopping breathing, wondering if she should administer CPR and call an ambulance, etc.

Therefore I assure you that you are incorrect in saying: "I think if I quit breathing I would know.?" Surely you jest! Where do you think you would get information about your bodily condition if you quit breathing?

People here will give you lots of good information and advice from personal experience and will help you through this. Hang on!

Best wishes, Nate