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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:09 pm
by chunkyfrog
Saw that; but I was out for a while today--sort of missed today's meltdown.

Re: CPAP Banned - Way Too Easy

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:59 am
by zoocrewphoto
idamtnboy wrote: Now about the homeless thread. I still haven't decided it the guy is real or not. As others have pointed out there are a lot of contradictory aspects about what he has written, but much is plausible. We may not want to admit it, but I believe there are many folks out there who were successful at one time but have sent to the financial pit of hell by economic conditions of the past 20 to 30 years. Sorting out the fakes from the real, when it comes to the homeless and economically disadvantaged, is a challenge for churches and other social aid organizations. We're seeing it first hand here with that thread.
"I seem to be able to bare the cold walking barefoot in the snow."

"But, I am serious about walking in snow with bare feet. With diabetes and the nerve damage/pain I feel nothing and find my feet are not cold. Mostly I did that last winter when I needed to bio suddenly in the middle of the night. It was difficult to install my shoes just to take a stroll out of the car. So, I just step out and walk a distance away. "

Either the guy is trolling, or he is choosing to ignore the risks when it is extremely dangerous for people with diabetes to have injuries on their feet. Why would somebody bother with a cpap machine if they don't care about losing their feet? It makes no sense.

Re: CPAP Banned - Way Too Easy

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:12 am
by mollete
zoocrewphoto wrote:It makes no sense.
It does if it's someone trying to make some extra coin selling CPAP machines. Or too cheap to pay for one (chose not to have health insurance or has big deductible).

Loves to do the guilt thing, a major contradiction to his supposed "beliefs".

Clearly never actually read anything on the practice of those beliefs (other than "Hey! You're supposed to give me free stuff or you're an evil person!"), e.g., Matt 6:17, or, more important, there is absolutely no evidence that he did one thing to help another person (which is kinda the whole point of Christian belief, e.g.2, "I need a CPAP for the guy next to me").

I tell ya, I sure hope some better topics get posted soon...

Re: CPAP Banned - Way Too Easy

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:45 am
by Rob108
mollete wrote:
zoocrewphoto wrote:It makes no sense.

I tell ya, I sure hope some better topics get posted soon...
I couldn't resist .... I 'M DOING THE AS HUMOR PLEASE DON"T TAKE OFFENCE. (

I googled Mollete and it said that it was "topped with chihuahua cheese. It is then grilled in an oven."
Shame on you mollete for your dastardly treatment of those little puppys.

I really need to get what I find humorous under better control.

Again sorry
Rob

Re: CPAP Banned - Way Too Easy

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:45 pm
by idamtnboy
zoocrewphoto wrote:
idamtnboy wrote: Now about the homeless thread. I still haven't decided it the guy is real or not. As others have pointed out there are a lot of contradictory aspects about what he has written, but much is plausible. We may not want to admit it, but I believe there are many folks out there who were successful at one time but have sent to the financial pit of hell by economic conditions of the past 20 to 30 years. Sorting out the fakes from the real, when it comes to the homeless and economically disadvantaged, is a challenge for churches and other social aid organizations. We're seeing it first hand here with that thread.
"I seem to be able to bare the cold walking barefoot in the snow."

"But, I am serious about walking in snow with bare feet. With diabetes and the nerve damage/pain I feel nothing and find my feet are not cold. Mostly I did that last winter when I needed to bio suddenly in the middle of the night. It was difficult to install my shoes just to take a stroll out of the car. So, I just step out and walk a distance away. "

Either the guy is trolling, or he is choosing to ignore the risks when it is extremely dangerous for people with diabetes to have injuries on their feet. Why would somebody bother with a cpap machine if they don't care about losing their feet? It makes no sense.
When you're destitute and homeless you don't always think in the same way as ordinary folk would. Circumstances can have a lot of bearing on one's way of prioritizing immediate concerns. As for stepping out in the snow to go pee, I find that perfectly likely. I've done it. I even take the trash out in the morning bare footed, on ice and snow! But, I can't wait to get back inside because I do have feeling in my feet, and snow and ice are cold! With no feeling in one's feet, it would be quite easy to stay out longer than is healthy. But again, the immediate need to relieve oneself unquestionably, to me anyway, can easily overpower the common sense of recognizing the long term ill effects of doing so barefooted.

Re: CPAP Banned - Way Too Easy

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:34 am
by zoocrewphoto
idamtnboy wrote:
zoocrewphoto wrote:
idamtnboy wrote: Now about the homeless thread. I still haven't decided it the guy is real or not. As others have pointed out there are a lot of contradictory aspects about what he has written, but much is plausible. We may not want to admit it, but I believe there are many folks out there who were successful at one time but have sent to the financial pit of hell by economic conditions of the past 20 to 30 years. Sorting out the fakes from the real, when it comes to the homeless and economically disadvantaged, is a challenge for churches and other social aid organizations. We're seeing it first hand here with that thread.
"I seem to be able to bare the cold walking barefoot in the snow."

"But, I am serious about walking in snow with bare feet. With diabetes and the nerve damage/pain I feel nothing and find my feet are not cold. Mostly I did that last winter when I needed to bio suddenly in the middle of the night. It was difficult to install my shoes just to take a stroll out of the car. So, I just step out and walk a distance away. "

Either the guy is trolling, or he is choosing to ignore the risks when it is extremely dangerous for people with diabetes to have injuries on their feet. Why would somebody bother with a cpap machine if they don't care about losing their feet? It makes no sense.
When you're destitute and homeless you don't always think in the same way as ordinary folk would. Circumstances can have a lot of bearing on one's way of prioritizing immediate concerns. As for stepping out in the snow to go pee, I find that perfectly likely. I've done it. I even take the trash out in the morning bare footed, on ice and snow! But, I can't wait to get back inside because I do have feeling in my feet, and snow and ice are cold! With no feeling in one's feet, it would be quite easy to stay out longer than is healthy. But again, the immediate need to relieve oneself unquestionably, to me anyway, can easily overpower the common sense of recognizing the long term ill effects of doing so barefooted.

But why would somebody bother to go online and try and get a cpap machine if they won't even bother to put their shoes on when going out in the snow? The damage to his feet could cause major harm a lot faster that sleep apnea.

Re: CPAP Banned - Way Too Easy

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:03 am
by ughwhatname
idamtnboy wrote:
zoocrewphoto wrote:
idamtnboy wrote: Now about the homeless thread. I still haven't decided it the guy is real or not. As others have pointed out there are a lot of contradictory aspects about what he has written, but much is plausible. We may not want to admit it, but I believe there are many folks out there who were successful at one time but have sent to the financial pit of hell by economic conditions of the past 20 to 30 years. Sorting out the fakes from the real, when it comes to the homeless and economically disadvantaged, is a challenge for churches and other social aid organizations. We're seeing it first hand here with that thread.
"I seem to be able to bare the cold walking barefoot in the snow."

"But, I am serious about walking in snow with bare feet. With diabetes and the nerve damage/pain I feel nothing and find my feet are not cold. Mostly I did that last winter when I needed to bio suddenly in the middle of the night. It was difficult to install my shoes just to take a stroll out of the car. So, I just step out and walk a distance away. "

Either the guy is trolling, or he is choosing to ignore the risks when it is extremely dangerous for people with diabetes to have injuries on their feet. Why would somebody bother with a cpap machine if they don't care about losing their feet? It makes no sense.
When you're destitute and homeless you don't always think in the same way as ordinary folk would. Circumstances can have a lot of bearing on one's way of prioritizing immediate concerns. As for stepping out in the snow to go pee, I find that perfectly likely. I've done it. I even take the trash out in the morning bare footed, on ice and snow! But, I can't wait to get back inside because I do have feeling in my feet, and snow and ice are cold! With no feeling in one's feet, it would be quite easy to stay out longer than is healthy. But again, the immediate need to relieve oneself unquestionably, to me anyway, can easily overpower the common sense of recognizing the long term ill effects of doing so barefooted.
In your scenario, you were then presumably going back into your nice warm house, where it would be reasonable to have bare feet in the first place. If this fellow is sleeping in his car, barefoot, and stepping out into the snow with the effects of diabetes, he should've already lost his feet to hypothermia with his reduced circulation and practiced behavior.