Five Myths about the Canadian Health Care system from AARP

Since this was about AARP discussing myths, I would guess that AARP being fair and unbiased would never be a myth! We all know that AARP is right down the middle and would never be left leaning!

SIXTY percent of US bankruptcies are due to medical bills and SEVENTY-EIGHT percent of those people who went bankrupt HAD health insurance, this on top of spending double per capita what any other country in world spends and coming in 33rd in the world in longevity - behind countries like chili, costa rica and slovenia

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2013/0 ... 00492.html

AARP is not the impartial company we are led to believe--they have many "business parters"
(for proof, look at the ads inside the magazine)
Especially the insurance! United Healthcare's HMO. I walked that mile at work for a couple of years;
until the union demanded they get their weasely a$$es out of town!

chunkyfrog wrote:AARP is not the impartial company we are led to believe--they have many "business parters"
(for proof, look at the ads inside the magazine)
Especially the insurance! United Healthcare's HMO. I walked that mile at work for a couple of years;
until the union demanded they get their weasely a$$es out of town!

It's like pretending that the media is left-wing. The Mega-corporations that own all the major networks are really all Bolsheviks concerned with spreading the wealth to the poor.

chunkyfrog wrote:AARP is not the impartial company we are led to believe--they have many "business parters"
(for proof, look at the ads inside the magazine)
Especially the insurance! United Healthcare's HMO. I walked that mile at work for a couple of years;
until the union demanded they get their weasely a$$es out of town!

For years my mother has insisted on buying a Medicare Supplement plan that was way more expensive than she and my father could even afford because her mother had one and because it was 'endorsed'/marketed by AARP. Complete and total garbage. Exact same benefits as every other supplement of the same type, but wildly more expensive because the AARP label was on it. No not for profit organization should do things like this. Paying more for anything is definitely not a benefit to their members.

For goodness sakes, they even market an AARP-branded cell phone service that is .....wayyyy more costly than comparable normal cell plans. Shameful.

It's a good, worthwhile organization, but being completely mismanaged.

johnthomasmacdonald wrote:SIXTY percent of US bankruptcies are due to medical bills and SEVENTY-EIGHT percent of those people who went bankrupt HAD health insurance,

Not exactly. This sixty percent had health problems and a large portion of these were unable to maintain their income due to serious illness.

That is quite a stretch to say these people filed bankruptcy due to medical bills. They filed bankruptcy due to loss of income and heavy debt. This is a problem of a different type than what is being discussed here.

Your own figures that you quote show that 78% had health insurance. So what in Obamacare will prevent people in such positions from going bankrupt in the future? Nothing.

These aren't people who were poor filing bankruptcy. They were middle class people living in nice neighborhoods and often were overextended or nearly overextended on home mortgages, car loans and credit card debt. Illness caused a significant loss of income and the loss of income led to bankruptcy. There are solutions to this type of problem but Obamacare is not a solution.

hyperlexis wrote:I cant believe I wasted five minutes of my life reading the comments on this stupid thread.

Some people will simply be irrational and obstructionist and there is simply nothing to be done. Some people believe the Holocaust never happened and evolution is a fraud. Whatever.

The ACA and the black president have won. Romney lost, big time. Get over it. It's called democracy.

See you Tuesday when the world, and healthcare will continue to exist. And hopefully be all the better for it.

It was also once called "Romneycare", created by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Everything was fine until the black guy decided to borrow it.

But, as I've already said, once it fails BIG TIME like so many here seem to want, the Dems will take the fall, the Tea Party will take over the government, science will be jettisoned for religious fundamentalism, and everybody will be back on their own when trying to buy health insurance.

I find that a strange thing to want on a site filled with posters with a medical condition that automatically makes them ineligible to buy their own health insurance policies, although maybe you're all on Medicare. Should the GOP gut Medicare funding next?

hyperlexis wrote:
Some people will simply be irrational and obstructionist and there is simply nothing to be done. Some people believe the Holocaust never happened and evolution is a fraud. Whatever.

The ACA and the black president have won. Romney lost, big time. Get over it. It's called democracy.

See you Tuesday when the world, and healthcare will continue to exist. And hopefully be all the better for it.

Where is the like button? Very good post!

hyperlexis.. I do want to tell you that I have the same supplemental plan your parents have - AARP/United Health Care. I did a great deal of research before I chose this plan. I found it no more expensive or less expensive than other plans of the same type.

Also, the AARP cell phone plan is costing me less than half of what I paid with another phone service. Check out their rates again... you may have missed something.

Judge Nap wrote:

johnthomasmacdonald wrote:SIXTY percent of US bankruptcies are due to medical bills and SEVENTY-EIGHT percent of those people who went bankrupt HAD health insurance,

Not exactly. This sixty percent had health problems and a large portion of these were unable to maintain their income due to serious illness.

That is quite a stretch to say these people filed bankruptcy due to medical bills.…

HEALTH CARE
Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of US Bankruptcies: Study

Published: Tuesday, 25 Jun 2013 | 2:29 PM ET

Bankruptcies resulting from unpaid medical bills will affect nearly 2 million people this year—making health care the No. 1 cause of such filings, and outpacing bankruptcies due to credit-card bills or unpaid mortgages, according to new data. And even having health insurance doesn't buffer consumers against financial hardship.

The findings are from NerdWallet Health, a division of the price-comparison website. It analyzed data from the U.S. Census, Centers for Disease Control, the federal court system and the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that promotes access, quality and efficiency in the health-care system.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

With health care system this good why would we want to switch??

NateS wrote:

Judge Nap wrote:

johnthomasmacdonald wrote:SIXTY percent of US bankruptcies are due to medical bills and SEVENTY-EIGHT percent of those people who went bankrupt HAD health insurance,

Not exactly. This sixty percent had health problems and a large portion of these were unable to maintain their income due to serious illness.

That is quite a stretch to say these people filed bankruptcy due to medical bills.…

HEALTH CARE
Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of US Bankruptcies: Study

Published: Tuesday, 25 Jun 2013 | 2:29 PM ET

Bankruptcies resulting from unpaid medical bills will affect nearly 2 million people this year—making health care the No. 1 cause of such filings, and outpacing bankruptcies due to credit-card bills or unpaid mortgages, according to new data. And even having health insurance doesn't buffer consumers against financial hardship.

The findings are from NerdWallet Health, a division of the price-comparison website. It analyzed data from the U.S. Census, Centers for Disease Control, the federal court system and the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that promotes access, quality and efficiency in the health-care system.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

I didn't know about this specific study.
I didn't know it was published on 25 June, 2013, which also happens to be my birthday
I also didn't know the time this article was apparently published... 2:29 PM

I did know that medical bills were the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the U.S.

I'm wondering how the "judge" didn't know that.

ems wrote:

NateS wrote:

Judge Nap wrote:

johnthomasmacdonald wrote:SIXTY percent of US bankruptcies are due to medical bills and SEVENTY-EIGHT percent of those people who went bankrupt HAD health insurance,

Not exactly. This sixty percent had health problems and a large portion of these were unable to maintain their income due to serious illness.

That is quite a stretch to say these people filed bankruptcy due to medical bills.…

HEALTH CARE
Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of US Bankruptcies: Study

Published: Tuesday, 25 Jun 2013 | 2:29 PM ET

Bankruptcies resulting from unpaid medical bills will affect nearly 2 million people this year—making health care the No. 1 cause of such filings, and outpacing bankruptcies due to credit-card bills or unpaid mortgages, according to new data. And even having health insurance doesn't buffer consumers against financial hardship.

The findings are from NerdWallet Health, a division of the price-comparison website. It analyzed data from the U.S. Census, Centers for Disease Control, the federal court system and the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that promotes access, quality and efficiency in the health-care system.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

I didn't know about this specific study.
I didn't know it was published on 25 June, 2013, which also happens to be my birthday
I also didn't know the time this article was apparently published... 2:29 PM

I did know that medical bills were the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the U.S.

I'm wondering how the "judge" didn't know that.

Because Fox News/Rush Limbaugh didn't tell him?

I really don't think that any of the people who posted snarky remarks about the Judge's post actually read it in context. You just clipped what you wanted and tried to distort and ridicule it.

I actually found several other articles (including one from CNN) which said many of the same things that the Judge did.

Thanks for being here, "Judge Nap". I don't know if you're really a judge, but I always read your posts because they're reasonable, sensible and logical.


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Wulfman... wrote:I really don't think that any of the people who posted snarky remarks about the Judge's post actually read it in context. You just clipped what you wanted and tried to distort and ridicule it.

I actually found several other articles (including one from CNN) which said many of the same things that the Judge did.

Thanks for being here, "Judge Nap". I don't know if you're really a judge, but I always read your posts because they're reasonable, sensible and logical.


Den

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I certainly did read "judge nap's" post. Of course there are other reasons beside medical bills which cause people to go bankrupt. However, medical bills still remain the number one reason people in the U.S. go bankrupt.

ems wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:I really don't think that any of the people who posted snarky remarks about the Judge's post actually read it in context. You just clipped what you wanted and tried to distort and ridicule it.

I actually found several other articles (including one from CNN) which said many of the same things that the Judge did.

Thanks for being here, "Judge Nap". I don't know if you're really a judge, but I always read your posts because they're reasonable, sensible and logical.


Den

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I certainly did read "judge nap's" post. Of course there are other reasons beside medical bills which cause people to go bankrupt. However, medical bills still remain the number one reason people in the U S go bankrupt.

THAT was never in dispute.


Den

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