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ChicagoGranny wrote:


Hurry up and give me my Prozac...honey boo boo is almost on!

CG, I know this is going to shock you but we actually agree on this point. Being on Prozac caused suicidal ideation which of course was blamed on my "mental illness". So obviously, that is the last drug I would touch.

49er

ChicagoGranny wrote:

CG, I know this is going to shock you but we actually agree on this point. Being on Prozac caused suicidal ideation which of course was blamed on my "mental illness". So obviously, that is the last drug I would touch.

49er

I think you might have missed the point.

49er wrote:

Perhaps I may have but why are you always so negative when I was trying to strike up a positive conversation? Of course, I am at fault for thinking this could occur so my bad.

49er

ChicagoGranny wrote:

49er wrote:

Perhaps I may have but why are you always so negative when I was trying to strike up a positive conversation? Of course, I am at fault for thinking this could occur so my bad.

49er

You said we agree on a point. But then you bring up something that was beside my point. I pointed that out in a gentle manner (gentle considering it is me).

Have a nice day!

ChicagoGranny wrote:

ChicagoGranny wrote:

CapnLoki wrote:

Wulfman... wrote: From observing the "law makers" and how they have gone about their work, it would appear that they aren't very good at their trade. All you have to do is look at how many laws get challenged in courts of appeal or get overturned? Obviously, that isn't "brain surgery", either.

"Law makers" is a euphemism. Congress, especially the House, is filled with Politicians. Always has been, always will. Its interesting that while some of the framers of the Constitution (real Law Makers) went to Congress, very few stayed for long. We all have our opinions of what it takes to be a member of the House, but being an intellectual is not high on too many lists.

The details of most complex laws today are written by Lobbyists and other "experts," and explained to the politicians with Power Point.

BTW, there's a myth that the ACA is thousands of pages and impossible to read. It really isn't that bad; during the great debates I frequently went to the draft to figure out who was telling the truth. (Oddly, it was never Sarah Palin.) The problem is that when you add amendments to make political statements that subtly conflict with other parts, there are unforeseen consequences.

There are obviously parts of the bill that need adjustment, but that will be difficult as long as the Republicans will only consider full repeal. After a few years when people understand the benefits the mood will change; in a few years it won't be thought of as a government program.

"I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No." - Craig T. Nelson to Glenn Beck
"keep your government hands off my Medicare." - said at a town meeting

The odd thing is that most of the ACA is not about "the government taking over the health system," its about the government setting standards about what must be provided and who is eligible. The person in GA will still get insurance from the same company and go to the same doctor. Its just that he won't be able to to get a "$10000 deductible, 30% copay, lifetime capped, doesn't cover half of real life issues, and gets taken away as soon as you actually get sick" policy. There's a reason why people that have those plans will see their rates go up: they didn't have what most people call "health insurance," and under Obamacare they will.

Cutnstuf wrote:You know, a lot of things people say about ACA are similar to what a lot of people said about Social Security and Medicare. Anybody here using either of those programs want to give them up, I'll be happy to take them off your hands!

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