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49er wrote:Molette - Come on my friend, why do you have to insult people who post things you don't like?

49er (hypothetically) wrote:http://www.thetruckersreport.com/trucki ... -scam.html

Trudger wrote:No, Nate, I will not post any medical report on here, just for the simple fact that I don't have to produce anything, as an American. This is not a communist country, contrary to how you may desire to see it.

Todzo wrote:
You forgot to mention all of the emotionally distracting pictures and all.

Trudger wrote:Look, we all ( or many) agree to disagree, which is fine in this country. We are all entitled to our opinion, and have all had differing experiences in life regarding this issue. What I do want to point out here is in that "DOT" regulation post someone put up here, it states that mandatory treatment is required for those diagnosed with MODERATE-SEVERE apnea. Even with Marten's test, I was diagnosed with SLIGHT-MODERATE, which doesn't require mandatory treatment by a doctor (of which they never provided. NEVER spoke with ONE doctor when I was there.) I did nothing illegal, period. I just stood up for my rights, in my opinion.

Todzo wrote:The medical community is not accurate or effective in the diagnosis or treatment of Obstructive Sleep Apnea.

I think that mandatory automated vigilance supervision is a better direction.

Sleepy truck drivers have been an issue for about as long as commercial trucking has been around. They operate large, lumbering vehicles that could take out several cars at once. Due to the rigs' size, they can't be maneuvered as quickly as cars or light trucks. And truck drivers simply drive more than other drivers. They may push themselves beyond the limits demanded by the sleep cycle -- the pattern of sleep and wakefulness -- in order to deliver their haul and get home.

The problem posed by snoozing truckers has prompted a glut of studies on how to address the issue of nodding off behind the wheel. These studies have led to regulation and new technologies. The federal government mandates that truckers can drive for no more than 12 hours before taking a mandatory 10-hour break [source: Dallas Morning News]. Researchers have created inventions to keep truckers awake, like LED lights that simulate morning light to trick truckers' circadian rhythm -- the body's natural clock -- into thinking it's morning and time to wake up [source: ScienceDaily].

While truckers make great subjects for tests that aim to solve the problem of drowsy drivers, they're hardly the only ones who fall asleep at the wheel. Auto safety researchers have come up with some clever ways to rouse sleepy drivers in passenger vehicles, too. So will your next car wake you up when you fall asleep? That's a real possibility, especially if you're planning on shelling out the money for a luxury car when you buy your next automobile.

Francis, Erica. "A wake-up call behind the wheel." Forbes Autos. November 26, 2007. http://www.forbesautos.com/news/feature ... wheel.html
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"New Mercedes-Benz system warns sleepy drivers." Gizmag. December 12, 2007. http://www.gizmag.com/new-mercedes-benz ... vers/8497/
"Tech watch: Volvo's driver alert control finally ready for prime time." Edmunds. August 30, 2007. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Ne ... eId=122411
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NateS wrote:

Todzo wrote:The medical community is not accurate or effective in the diagnosis or treatment of Obstructive Sleep Apnea.

I think that mandatory automated vigilance supervision is a better direction.

You mean devices like these? ... ... ...

One problem with this approach is to note the dates on these reports. It is now 2013 and this concept is still not universally applied. In fact, it is not even minimally applied and people are still getting killed out on the highway by both truck drivers and passenger car drivers falling asleep.

Regards, Nate

Todzo wrote: I know that there are many technologies in development.

The trucking industry is critical to our health and wealth. We need someone to coordinate development and then make this work and we need it soon.

BlackSpinner wrote:

Todzo wrote: I know that there are many technologies in development.

The trucking industry is critical to our health and wealth. We need someone to coordinate development and then make this work and we need it soon.

By the time they wake you up the truck/car is in another lane, the ditch or the river.

Far, far better is to prevent falling asleep in the first place by testing drivers and making sure they meet health requirements.

Todzo wrote:

BlackSpinner wrote:

Todzo wrote:
Sleep apnea testing is miss and miss and maybe hit once in a while and they have no good treatment to offer.

zoocrewphoto wrote: The treatment is good.

Todzo wrote:

zoocrewphoto wrote: The treatment is good.

The treatment works less than half of the time and you call that "good"?!?!? What is wrong with you!