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Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:31 pm
by Stormynights
It looks like whatever is wrong you are on the road to getting it taken care of. You and her both should be feeling better soon. Tonsils do grow back even if completely removed. Mine did but I have only had tonsillitis one time since so it hasn't been a bother.

Best wishes for you both.

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:35 pm
by SleepyonMagnoliaSt
Stormynights wrote:It looks like whatever is wrong you are on the road to getting it taken care of. You and her both should be feeling better soon. Tonsils do grow back even if completely removed. Mine did but I have only had tonsillitis one time since so it hasn't been a bother.

Best wishes for you both.
Well her tonsils have never been infected or anything. So if they grow back I wouldn't be worried about that. I just want her to be able to sleep through the night. I guess in kids removing the tonsils usually fixes sleep apnea?

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:59 pm
by SleepingUgly
SleepyonMagnoliaSt wrote:Well her tonsils have never been infected or anything. So if they grow back I wouldn't be worried about that. I just want her to be able to sleep through the night. I guess in kids removing the tonsils usually fixes sleep apnea?
I guess I wasn't clear. IF removing her tonsils cures her apnea, then IF they grow back to some degree, they will be obstructing her airway (to some degree) again. No, a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy do not always (and maybe not even "usually") cure sleep apnea in children.

Regarding expansion, if a child has a narrow maxilla, they are at increased risk for sleep apnea (as a child and as an adult) for a variety of reasons. Even if a child does NOT have sleep apnea, if their maxilla is narrow, maxillary expansion is indicated orthodontically.

In short, tonsillectomy/adenoidectomy can be a cure, as can maxillary expansion. If the T&A doesn't make a dent in the sleep apnea and she doesn't have any other reason for having the T&A, then it was done unnecessarily; however, barring complications, I've never heard of anyone who lamented not having tonsils. And it's worth a crack at a cure, IMO. If maxillary expansion doesn't cure her apnea, it was not for naught if it was orthodontically indicated anyway. You have two cracks at a cure (but only if her maxilla is narrow). That's better than no cracks at a cure.

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:14 pm
by SleepyonMagnoliaSt
SleepingUgly wrote:
SleepyonMagnoliaSt wrote:Well her tonsils have never been infected or anything. So if they grow back I wouldn't be worried about that. I just want her to be able to sleep through the night. I guess in kids removing the tonsils usually fixes sleep apnea?
I guess I wasn't clear. IF removing her tonsils cures her apnea, then IF they grow back to some degree, they will be obstructing her airway (to some degree) again. No, a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy do not always (and maybe not even "usually") cure sleep apnea in children.

Regarding expansion, if a child has a narrow maxilla, they are at increased risk for sleep apnea (as a child and as an adult) for a variety of reasons. Even if a child does NOT have sleep apnea, if their maxilla is narrow, maxillary expansion is indicated orthodontically.

In short, tonsillectomy/adenoidectomy can be a cure, as can maxillary expansion. If the T&A doesn't make a dent in the sleep apnea and she doesn't have any other reason for having the T&A, then it was done unnecessarily; however, barring complications, I've never heard of anyone who lamented not having tonsils. And it's worth a crack at a cure, IMO. If maxillary expansion doesn't cure her apnea, it was not for naught if it was orthodontically indicated anyway. You have two cracks at a cure (but only if her maxilla is narrow). That's better than no cracks at a cure.
The quoted wasn't to you. But as I said. I had maxillary expansion as a teenager, there is no way I'd ever put my 7 year old through it. No way no how. If it's something she wants to make the decision to have done at an elder age then we'll try it. But not before.

If the tonsil and adenoid removal doesn't work (and I hope it will) we'll deal with a cpap until she's old enough to make some decisions herself.

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:27 pm
by sawinglogz
SleepyonMagnoliaSt wrote:If it's something she wants to make the decision to have done at an elder age then we'll try it. But not before.
I'm not sure that's possible once her palate has fused. I totally understand choosing not to do it at all, but if your plan is to give her the choice later, make sure she'll have the choice later.

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:35 pm
by SleepyonMagnoliaSt
sawinglogz wrote:
SleepyonMagnoliaSt wrote:If it's something she wants to make the decision to have done at an elder age then we'll try it. But not before.
I'm not sure that's possible once her palate has fused. I totally understand choosing not to do it at all, but if your plan is to give her the choice later, make sure she'll have the choice later.
Oh I won't do it at all if it comes down to hit. It's unlikely that she even needs it done. Her dentists are always commenting that she has a large mouth Poor kid. I tease her about that I admit

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:40 pm
by SleepingUgly
I'm curious what was so negative about your experience with expansion? I was kind of hoping my son would need rapid maxillary expansion so we could reduce the risk that he'll wind up like me. If that had been available when I was a kid, who knows... A relative had it done for orthodontic reasons. It was fast (few months), and she stopped snoring as a result.

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:54 pm
by SleepyonMagnoliaSt
SleepingUgly wrote:I'm curious what was so negative about your experience with expansion? I was kind of hoping my son would need rapid maxillary expansion so we could reduce the risk that he'll wind up like me. If that had been available when I was a kid, who knows... A relative had it done for orthodontic reasons. It was fast (few months), and she stopped snoring as a result.
I had it done with my braces from the ages of 14-16 and it was agony. I would lay in bed and sob because I was in so much pain. It took a year and a half for my expansion to be finished. Tylenol did not touch the pain. I also got 3 infections during the process. Especially since dd is so young and going through so much already (she's going to a special needs school next year as she's been diagnosed with dyslexia) I'd just prefer CPAP over the expansion.

Also in my case at least it did not help my sleep

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:14 pm
by SleepingUgly
Oh, wow, OK... Well, I'm not sure that was the same type of expansion as they do in little kids... Or maybe the fact that you were so much older made it so painful. I don't know. But it sounds like she doesn't need it, so it's probably a non-issue.

Re: My daughter's sleep study

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:22 pm
by SleepyonMagnoliaSt
SleepingUgly wrote:Oh, wow, OK... Well, I'm not sure that was the same type of expansion as they do in little kids... Or maybe the fact that you were so much older made it so painful. I don't know. But it sounds like she doesn't need it, so it's probably a non-issue.
Yeah. Sorry for sounding forceful. But going through something like that puts one off it. As you can probably imagine LOL