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The trick to improving health while consuming fats is to ONLY eat naturally occurring fats. Eat butter, consume MCT, use coconut oil, but DO NOT ever mix in unhealthy messes like Smart Balance. I tried Atkins a long time ago, and lost a lot of weight, but my overall health went down. Not because of Atkins, but because I continued to eat man-made fats. I'm doing it the right way now!

I've just begun the use of Bullet Proof Coffee---I love it! And it satisfies my hunger until evening. I had first read of this on this forum, so a big thank you to which ever one of you mentioned it!

Eat butter, consume MCT, use coconut oil, but DO NOT ever mix in unhealthy messes like Smart Balance.

Sorry, I will stick with my doctor's advice to strictly limit saturated fats. He also says Smart Balance is a good substitute and they have peer reviewed medical studies to back it up.

I think a lot of you just like to be rebellious talking about eating beef tallow, and butter and bacon by the pound.

CowFish wrote:

Eat butter, consume MCT, use coconut oil, but DO NOT ever mix in unhealthy messes like Smart Balance.

Sorry, I will stick with my doctor's advice to strictly limit saturated fats. He also says Smart Balance is a good substitute and they have peer reviewed medical studies to back it up.

I think a lot of you just like to be rebellious talking about eating beef tallow, and butter and bacon by the pound.

Those peer review studies were probably paid for by the manufacturers and your doctor had one semester of nutritional studies way back when he was in school.

There are studies - peer reviewed - on the value of saturated fats (but not bacon - it as chemical issues) but they were done long after your doc left school.

CowFish wrote:

Eat butter, consume MCT, use coconut oil, but DO NOT ever mix in unhealthy messes like Smart Balance.

Sorry, I will stick with my doctor's advice to strictly limit saturated fats. He also says Smart Balance is a good substitute and they have peer reviewed medical studies to back it up.

I think a lot of you just like to be rebellious talking about eating beef tallow, and butter and bacon by the pound.

I wasn't trying to be rebellious, and I am sorry if my post came across that way.

The point I was trying to make was if one decides to use the fats I mentioned above, the benefits are lost if one would then also consume other fats, such as that found in Smart Balance. I believe it makes health sense to go completely one way or the other.

To ME it makes sense to use fats that were put on earth by the Creator, so speaking just for myself, I choose to avoid man-made fats, packaged foods. I wasn't trying to win you over to my opinion, I am actually glad that you have thought about your approach and made the decision to follow your dr's advice. Too many people just blindly follow one approach after the other!

I hope I've been able to express my opinion without stepping on any toes!

I am having such a wonderful day today, and I truly hope you are, too!

Humans at primarily saturated fat for thousands of years. Even the Mediterraneans who had ample access to olive oil ate goat and lamb (and did not avoid the fat), and plenty of cheeses and other milkfat foods (yogurt, e.g.). Yet the rates of cardiovascular disease soared when we decreased the saturated fat in our diets and replaced it with "heart healthy" seed and nut oils and margarines. There's plenty of evidence that Americans adopted these new dietary guidelines hook, line, and sinker, yet the rates of obesity and cardiovascular disease continue to increase, NOT decrease. Isn't that the definition of insanity--finding that something doesn't work and repeating it over and over again???

The studies implicating saturated fats were flawed, and the studies showing the danger of PUFA's were glossed over or ignored. See, for example http://denversdietdoctor.com/consuminsu ... -business/

Being rebellious. Being an uninformed or foolish victim.

I'll take rebellious any day ... IMO, rebellious is often confused with taking your life into your own hands to avoid being victimized.

Even Dr. Ron Krauss, the world's leading expert in cholesterol has done a 180 on saturated fats and recommends saturated fats over carbs.

Smart balance is for oxymorons who think they can get smart eating it.

How we got fat by geography. Interesting. In only 25 years - http://exp.lore.com/post/47966535164/a- ... -s-got-fat



Also very interesting, how the world eats http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/ ... ry-planet/

Thanks. Those links are amazing.

JeffH wrote:Ditto what Doc and DreamStalker said. I'm down 100lbs eating fat but low carbs. My hbA1c was 4.9 when I went to the Doctor's office this last Tuesday. Pretty good for a type 2 diabetic. If you are type 2 PLEASE don't follow the American Diabetes Assoc. diet recommendations....they will kill you.

JeffH,

You bet! In 2004, I had hurt my knee. Finally went to the doc, who insisted on running an a1c. Anyone knows pain will raise BG. But no.... my refusal to stop stuffing my face and lose weight was catching up to me! (We'll skip over the fact that I'd lost 180 pounds.)

He sent me to a endocrinologist, who told me I had to get off my horribly unhealthy (starch free, sugar free, grain free) diet and eat lots of complex carbs. But boy, he had no answer when I asked why, if I was diabetic, which meant I couldn't metabolize carbs, I wanted to eat what I couldn't metabolize. I fired him.

Almost ten years later, I'm still not diabetic... but if I'd eaten what endo suggested, I would be.

JeffH wrote:Ditto what Doc and DreamStalker said. I'm down 100lbs eating fat but low carbs. My hbA1c was 4.9 when I went to the Doctor's office this last Tuesday. Pretty good for a type 2 diabetic. If you are type 2 PLEASE don't follow the American Diabetes Assoc. diet recommendations....they will kill you.


JeffH

The ADA diet will kill you for sure. I'm trying to get rid of carbs in my foodstream, but it's difficult when you wake up at 5AM w/a BG of 49. Bottle of grape drank and a fistful of gummi worms... just by reducing carbs, not eliminating them, I lost 7 pounds in a month, about the same rate I was packing it on this past summer.

John from Brookston wrote:
The ADA diet will kill you for sure. I'm trying to get rid of carbs in my foodstream, but it's difficult when you wake up at 5AM w/a BG of 49. Bottle of grape drank and a fistful of gummi worms... just by reducing carbs, not eliminating them, I lost 7 pounds in a month, about the same rate I was packing it on this past summer.

Sugar is carbs.

it's difficult when you wake up at 5AM w/a BG of 49. Bottle of grape drank and a fistful of gummi worm

Gosh, I hope you are kidding!

Have you tried a protein and fat snack before bed to see if you can give your morning insulin surge something to work on instead of doing that?

BlackSpinner wrote:

John from Brookston wrote:
The ADA diet will kill you for sure. I'm trying to get rid of carbs in my foodstream, but it's difficult when you wake up at 5AM w/a BG of 49. Bottle of grape drank and a fistful of gummi worms... just by reducing carbs, not eliminating them, I lost 7 pounds in a month, about the same rate I was packing it on this past summer.

Sugar is carbs.

I know.
If anybody has a way to bring your BG back from the brink of calling 911 without eating sugar, I'm all ears.

Since starting HRT and PAP therapy, I have a very difficult time keeping my BG out of the "Red Zone" overnight. Right now, the BG is reading 149. *IF* I suspend the basal drip from my pump completely right NOW, and do not eat some carbs, I will wake up around 4:30 or 5 with a low crash of less than 60. My "personal best" has been 44, and at that, I could hardly see to find the fridge. Scary stuff.

Our 40-year infatuation with the low-fat, egg-less, "Healthy Grain" fad diet is the fault of one Ancel Keyes, PhD, who had degrees in Biology and Physiology, and is best known, after blaming dietary fat for heart disease, as the developer of the "K" ration.

John from Brookston wrote: If anybody has a way to bring your BG back from the brink of calling 911 without eating sugar, I'm all ears.

Since starting HRT and PAP therapy, I have a very difficult time keeping my BG out of the "Red Zone" overnight. Right now, the BG is reading 149. *IF* I suspend the basal drip from my pump completely right NOW, and do not eat some carbs, I will wake up around 4:30 or 5 with a low crash of less than 60. My "personal best" has been 44, and at that, I could hardly see to find the fridge. Scary stuff.

Our 40-year infatuation with the low-fat, egg-less, "Healthy Grain" fad diet is the fault of one Ancel Keyes, PhD, who had degrees in Biology and Physiology, and is best known, after blaming dietary fat for heart disease, as the developer of the "K" ration.

Try a high fat, high protein, with a small amount of carbs snack before you got to bed. I make a mock chocolate pudding with dry curd cottage cheese, an egg, 4 Medjool Dates (about 60 grams of carb), a half cup of flax oil and 1.5 cups melted non-deodorized cocoa butter, along with 2 tablespoons vanilla extract, a quarter teaspoon black pepper, and a quarter teaspoon salt. I whiz it all up smooth in a food processor, and then pour into about 6-8 four ounce containers. One container is exceedingly rich, and contains around 7.5 grams of carbs.