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Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:05 pm
by chunkyfrog
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:26 pm
by archangle
TheUglyTruth wrote:No one here ever heard of Tamiflu?
It's not clear Tamiflu makes much difference for most patients.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oseltamivir
Even if it does work, the drug has "modest effectiveness against the symptoms of influenza in otherwise healthy adults."
http://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b5106
"Conclusion: Neuraminidase inhibitors have modest effectiveness against the symptoms of influenza in otherwise healthy adults. The drugs are effective postexposure against laboratory confirmed influenza, but this is a small component of influenza-like illness, so for this outcome neuraminidase inhibitors are not effective. Neuraminidase inhibitors might be regarded as optional for reducing the symptoms of seasonal influenza. Paucity of good data has undermined previous findings for oseltamivir’s prevention of complications from influenza. Independent randomised trials to resolve these uncertainties are needed."
Plus read the link the cute frog lady posted.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:46 pm
by purple
In this group of medical insurrectionists no one mentioned "Colloidal Silver", or garlic.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:29 pm
by porete
purple wrote:In this group of medical insurrectionists no one mentioned "Colloidal Silver", or garlic.
I tried colloidal silver once...it didn't really help. Plus, I don't want to run the risk of my skin turning blue.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:53 pm
by chunkyfrog
Garlic is helpful against bacteria, not sure about its effect on viruses.
Garlic juice used to be called "Russian Penicillin", and was poured on battlefield wounds if vodka was not available.
My father-in law swore by eating garlic with heavy, rye bread, generously covered with unsalted butter, as a tonic.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:48 am
by StuUnderPressure
Eating a lot of garlic will also keep mosquitos away.
The skin exudes it & the mosquitos hate it.
Of course, no human will come near you either.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:01 pm
by chunkyfrog
--Hopefully, humans who are contagious.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:04 pm
by gomer
chunkyfrog wrote:--Hopefully, humans who are contagious.
Froggy.........Many Thanx 4 the LOL!
As for flu shot, last one I had in2007 MADE me SICK! I had a fun time trying to keep my blood glucose even down to about 200, even with Double-plus insulin doses. (BTW I am insulin sensitive, instead of the more common insulin resistive type-2)
NO more flu shots for me!
BTW I also have MS and shingles shot is also a NO NO.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:11 pm
by purple
No Shingles shot for MS. Makes sense to listen to ones doc before taking advice off the internet. Good point Gomer.
Re: OT, flu, what do doctors do for flu patients?
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:30 pm
by Feline
Mr Feline and I are both those types who will catch, well, something, from flu shots, so we concentrate on prevention and management. At the first flu-like symptoms, I start taking garlic and vitamin C, drinking as much clear liquid as possible, and most importantly, using a nasal irrigation system (neti pot or Sinus Rinse squeezy bottle) if not already doing so. This seems to help flush the system out, and keeps things from getting too bad. I also wash my hands a lot (and have the dry skin to prove it), and use hand sanitiser. This may not prevent the flu, but does seem to keep you from getting an "oh, shoot me now" case of the nasty bug. YMMV.
The down side of all this is having to run to the bathroom a lot, and smelling like garlic . However, a bad case of flu is also not exactly polite, either.
I am also convinced that the nasal rinses help with hay fever symptoms and colds. I have only been on CPAP since last March, so I am not certain of this yet, but the CPAP machine also seems to help with those things, probably due to the moist air and filtering. Again, YMMV.