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avi123 wrote:But the warms form the socks keep the fungus in my toenail too happy.

I had the same problem with my big toenails they were real bad. I solved that problem by having my big toenails removed permanently, there gone now and so is the problem. They were loose about half way down each toe so they came out easily, best thing I ever did. Actually Metanx is nothing more that a bunch of super vitamins. It takes a little while to work so don't expect to take it for a week and feel great. It's like most things it has to build up in your system.

Applying Vicks Vapo Rub twice a day to the fungus-ridden nails helps soften the sick nail
and allow it to separate from the healthy nail/nail bed more easily.
Your podiatrist will thank you, and the process will be less traumatic for you.

Here is a video on how it works.http://www.metanx.com/learn-about-metan ... anx-works/


Metanx is the brand name of a multivitamin manufactured by Pamlab. Each Mentax tablet contains 25 mg of vitamin B-6, 2.8 mg of folic acid and 2 mg of vitamin B-12. Generally, these vitamins work by increasing the blood flow to your nerves. Mentax is a prescription medication, only available under a doctor's supervision.

Another symptom I have is body aches. Some might call it "fibromyalgia" but I don't think it's in the muscles, it's all over my body, including like bone aches. It's very much like what you feel when you are bed ridden with the flu. Right now I have it a bit bad. Analgesics help, but then one can get into analgesic rebound and end up worse off. I first thought it was like a life time's amount of viruses lurking and slowly chewing on me but once the doc confirmed neuropathy I began to wonder if it's from the neural sheaths being eroded and giving flu like symptoms often (nearly always, but only down at the 1-2 pain level). I have more to learn about this. One thing nice: There are a LOT of really good people here that share their maladies besides OSA and help each other out on "peripheral maladies" like "peripheral neuropathy". A lot of us, maybe too the population in general, are all packing our "crosses to bear" through life, some heavier than others.

Bless you all.

We seem to have found a common problem in the foot problems. I, too, will try the Mantanx. Maybe, I can get my socks off, too.

Max, I've had fibromyalgia for years. Your symptoms sound familiar. Analgesics like aspirin etc. won't touch the pain. PM me if you want some reliable references. I have hopes that sleep apnea treatment will help with many of my auto-immune discomforts. I also have a weekly massage therapist who beats me up for 2-3 hours a week. Don't bother feeling jealous; hurts like **** but the next day life is greatly improved. I think she needs a sleep study- hmmm

Lynda

My father is developing some of these foot issues. The doctor had him try gabettin this week. While it helped somewhat for his feet, he was totally out of it for the next 24 hours, like he was stoned on MJ. It has taken him several days now to get back to his normal self.

I will have to take note of some of the other things suggested here and try to get him to try some of this.

BlackSpinner wrote:The doctor had him try gabettin this week.

Gabapentin, perhaps? Tough stuff. Be very careful about how he eases on and off of that stuff.

piglet14 wrote:Max, I've had fibromyalgia for years. Your symptoms sound familiar. Analgesics like aspirin etc. won't touch the pain.

In my case if I take 2 Excedrin the pain pretty much goes away, but in 2 hrs when it wears off it's right back sometimes worse. That's about 16 Excedrin per day if I took 2 every 2 waking hours and my doc says "Nooo!!!" because of analgesic rebound. He says try to take no analgesics if I can and tough it out, I'll feel better, and to a certain extent, he's right. 2 Excedrin in the AM, 2 Naproxin at beddy-bye time I think is the best balance for me. Pain level 1-2 is not so bad, just a "getting old" hassle I guess. I'm not 20 anymore, damn it

Sometimes it's that low grade pain that just stays there day after day that eventually wears you down, it's always there. You can take something for it but it always comes back when the med wears off and that's what you take to bed with you every night.

squid13 wrote:Sometimes it's that low grade pain that just stays there day after day that eventually wears you down, it's always there. You can take something for it but it always comes back when the med wears off and that's what you take to bed with you every night.

Ya. The 2 Naproxin at beddy-bye time are claimed to be 12 hr so should last through sleep w/o rebound and make me a little groggy so I sleep better... I think.

As a follow up, I recently had a neural conduction test (velocity) of my lower legs and feet and it was confirmed that I have neuropathy, all nerves from the knees down are degraded, 15% fully dead. I have some muscular atrophy now in my left foot mostly, where a motor nerve is dead. My colon also is dysfunctioning. Since all causes of the colon problem are cleared, it defaults to be independently determined to be neuropathy. So, my neuropathy is not just peripheral, but systemic. Whatever the cause, it's accelerating with new numbness each week now.

My niece, God help her, also has this but much more aggressively. She was just diagnosed with MS. My neurologist and I don't think I have MS, just neuropathy on a joy ride.

MaxDarkside wrote:

squid13 wrote:Sometimes it's that low grade pain that just stays there day after day that eventually wears you down, it's always there. You can take something for it but it always comes back when the med wears off and that's what you take to bed with you every night.

Ya. The 2 Naproxin at beddy-bye time are claimed to be 12 hr so should last through sleep w/o rebound and make me a little groggy so I sleep better... I think.

Careful with Napoxin - this is an NSAID and can harm the kidneys if you take regularly.
Jen

jencat824 wrote:Careful with Napoxin - this is an NSAID and can harm the kidneys if you take regularly.
Jen

Thanks. I take BP meds that also can harm kidneys so they test me every 6 - 12 months and so far all is in the pink. Also, I discussed my dosing for aches with my neurologist and he said it was fine.

I have not tried the "nutritional supplements" suggested here yet for neuropathy. I asked the neurologist about Alpha Lipoic Acid and benfotiamine and he said they are not useful. On the other hand, he didn't know what benfotiamine was either (lipid form of thiamine I guess). I might try both and see if I can detect any subtle changes tho it might be hard to sort out any effect unless it is obvious.

The sad thing about nutritional or herbal remedies is that the research (if any)
will have to take place abroad; because it ain't happening here.

chunkyfrog wrote:The sad thing about nutritional or herbal remedies is that the research (if any)
will have to take place abroad; because it ain't happening here.

Heh... From Wiki: (bold underline mine)

Benfotiamine may be useful for the treatment of diabetic retinopathy, neuropathy, and nephropathy however "Most of the effects attributed to benfotiamine are extrapolated from in vitro and animal studies. Unfortunately apparent evidences from human studies are scarce and especially endpoint studies are missing.