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Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

I'll just be happy if we can continue to have free speech and the absolute right to speak openly and hopefully PROTECT the gullible as ChunkyFrog said.

I'm not a fan of any new laws.
Just protect and increase freedoms and rights.

Grace~~~ wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:50 pm

I'll just be happy if we can continue to have free speech and the absolute right to speak openly and hopefully PROTECT the gullible as ChunkyFrog said.

I'm not a fan of any new laws.
Just protect and increase freedoms and rights.

Good point & I agree with you.. World is getting crazier.

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:58 pm

Grace~~~ wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:50 pm

I'll just be happy if we can continue to have free speech and the absolute right to speak openly and hopefully PROTECT the gullible as ChunkyFrog said.

I'm not a fan of any new laws.
Just protect and increase freedoms and rights.

Good point & I agree with you.. World is getting crazier.

And the people keep getting Dumber! Jim

A few more year the people are going to be in the Cages throwing CRAP at the Monkeys that are looking at us!

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

Any anti-gimmick law would itself be a gimmick and would therefore be an illegal law banning itself out of existence as it imploded the entire legal system in on itself leaving only the totalitarian anarchists who would immediately pass a law to ban all laws.

Soclean is a master at fear based marketing - it's one of the oldest tricks in the book. (because it usually works)

https://awario.com/blog/fear-based-marketing/

Instead of making scare marketing illegal, perhaps they should be TAXED,
with 100% of the proceeds going to EDUCATION.
Consumer Wisdom 101, taught from the third grade on.
Of course, many who fall for the pitch anyway do have the opportunity to learn,
but fail to comprehend . . .
They would need to be admitted to Deprogramming camps.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:08 pm

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

Any anti-gimmick law would itself be a gimmick and would therefore be an illegal law banning itself out of existence as it imploded the entire legal system in on itself leaving only the totalitarian anarchists who would immediately pass a law to ban all laws.

By banning all laws would they not be banning the law they just passed?

Wow, I'm going to have to light a joint and ponder that one.

I know you have an answer and it will harsh my mellow.
So no joint for me. Bummer.
JPB

jimbud wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:12 am

jnk... wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:08 pm

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

Any anti-gimmick law would itself be a gimmick and would therefore be an illegal law banning itself out of existence as it imploded the entire legal system in on itself leaving only the totalitarian anarchists who would immediately pass a law to ban all laws.

By banning all laws would they not be banning the law they just passed?

Wow, I'm going to have to light a joint and ponder that one.

I know you have an answer and it will harsh my mellow.
So no joint for me. Bummer.
JPB

All political positions are contradictory, but some are more contradictory than others.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:08 pm

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

Any anti-gimmick law would itself be a gimmick and would therefore be an illegal law banning itself out of existence as it imploded the entire legal system in on itself leaving only the totalitarian anarchists who would immediately pass a law to ban all laws.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:21 pm

jimbud wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:12 am

jnk... wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:08 pm

Enigmas wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Should be laws against these type of gimmicks.

Any anti-gimmick law would itself be a gimmick and would therefore be an illegal law banning itself out of existence as it imploded the entire legal system in on itself leaving only the totalitarian anarchists who would immediately pass a law to ban all laws.

By banning all laws would they not be banning the law they just passed?

Wow, I'm going to have to light a joint and ponder that one.

I know you have an answer and it will harsh my mellow.
So no joint for me. Bummer.
JPB

All political positions are contradictory, but some are more contradictory than others.

That did it!
I'm back to the joint and a long ponder.
JPB

Good points..

I'm a SoClean user for about 4-5 years. I'm a huge fan and 100% disagree with the assessment that it's a waste of money and it does nothing.
Prior to use, my water chamber needed to be cleaned every day. If I didn't, it would fill with a sludge-like-oil slick which would turn to a brownish film after maybe two or three days. After only about a day and a half the chamber was visibly disgusting. The Soclean 100% ended that and I only have to "top it off" every day or two for it to remain (what appears) clean. While snot and stuff still can accumulate on my nasal pillows, the bulk of my equipment is visibly and smell-wise a million times cleaner than it was when I was doing things every day, every other day, once a week, etc. I stick the mask in the Soclean and it works wonders. I can't speak of any dangers, but the pros have been astounding.

I too have been using Soclean for 5 years, Love it!! I've got the ResMed Airsence 10 Auto, with heated hose and humidification. I am a retired Operating Room RN, and Critical care nurse as well. SoClean is a great product and does a great job. There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. There are no dangers, The O3 is contained in the tubing, cpap machine and SoClean reservoir. Over the two hour cleaning period the filter system converts the O3 back to O2.

TWO

How does it get rid of all the drool and body oil that's on your mask, you still have to wash that off with soap and water.