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@edm_msu: How comfortable is the fingertip sensor on the 50F? It seems awfully wide for my fingers. Does the 50F have bluetooth? Does the 50I? The Contec web site suggests there's a 50FW and 50IW, but I have no idea stores in the U.S. are selling (since apparently the 50E is sometimes a 50EW).

The fingertip sensor is more comfortable than the entire unit on the end of your finger. There is a moderate squeeze. My fingertip gets slightly warm because it is covered with a rubber like material (latex?). I never even noticed the width. It is less wide than an entire oximeter. No bluetooth. I don't know about the different models.

JohnO wrote:

@JohnO: May I ask where you bought your 50EW?

I got it here: http://www.clinicalguard.com/oximeters- ... -p-89.html

Oh crap. Does that mean the 50E which I just bought, received, and am wearing from them tonight for the first time via that other discussion thread isn't going to work with sleepyhead?

lazer wrote:

JohnO wrote:

@JohnO: May I ask where you bought your 50EW?

I got it here: http://www.clinicalguard.com/oximeters- ... -p-89.html

Oh crap. Does that mean the 50E which I just bought, received, and am wearing from them tonight for the first time via that other discussion thread isn't going to work with sleepyhead?

Hard to say. What firmware version is your device? Mine is version 1.4W. It works with the SpO2 Assistant, which, for me, generates files with a .SP02 extension, which is not read by Sleepyhead. Thankfully, the output from the SpO2 Assistant is quite good.

JohnO wrote:

lazer wrote:

JohnO wrote:

@JohnO: May I ask where you bought your 50EW?

I got it here: http://www.clinicalguard.com/oximeters- ... -p-89.html

Oh crap. Does that mean the 50E which I just bought, received, and am wearing from them tonight for the first time via that other discussion thread isn't going to work with sleepyhead?

Hard to say. What firmware version is your device? Mine is version 1.4W. It works with the SpO2 Assistant, which, for me, generates files with a .SP02 extension, which is not read by Sleepyhead. Thankfully, the output from the SpO2 Assistant is quite good.

Well at least that is good to hear. To be honest, I haven't even installed the software. I initially plugged it in to charge and a "Blue" light was on for a while. Later when I went to unplug it to use, the blue light was no longer on so I am just assuming this meant that it was charged. I delved through the manual briefly but in my current state of mind, most of the information went way over my head. I did wear it for a complete night last night along with my Zeo and Apap. Have yet to do anything with it as of now as far as reading any data it collected OR installing the software as my home computer is currently in "distress" with the main drive failing and I just now got the replacement RMA drive back from WD and am in the process of figuring out the best way to save what I can from the faulty drive over to the new one. I should have brought the software disk and oximeter to work with me today but didn't. So much going on these days to keep track of.

Any assistance, tips, ect... you can provide me would be awesome and much appreciated! I do remember the screen on the 50E blinking on to some sort of firmware number (I believe) when initially turning it on once on my finger but I forget what it read. Will this continue to track multiple nights of use if I don't download the data the next morning or day OR do I have to have the software installed and do it daily?

Many thanks so far for the great info!

lazer wrote: I initially plugged it in to charge and a "Blue" light was on for a while. Later when I went to unplug it to use, the blue light was no longer on so I am just assuming this meant that it was charged.

Correct - the blue light goes out when it is charged.

I delved through the manual briefly but in my current state of mind, most of the information went way over my head. I did wear it for a complete night last night along with my Zeo and Apap.

The CMS-50E suffers from being tricky to learn the first time, but then so easy to use after that that the developers neglect to write a clear manual because, of course, they are already intimately familiar with it!

I can't speak to all units, since I think they vary just a little bit, but with mine, if you want to record, do the following:

1) Turn on the unit by pressing the button until the screen lights up
2) Once the first screen is visible (and it shows) "Finger Out," press the button until the Settings Menu appears
3) Press the button (short press) to move down the menu to Record, which should show "off."
4) Press the button (long press) and the item changes so you can enter the current time. Do that. Then continue to scroll right (using short presses) to select "Y" from the "Y/N" selection. The screen briefly says "Waiting..." then goes back to the menu, but now it shows "Record....On"
5) Place the CMS-50E on a finger, and try to fall asleep.
6) In the morning, remove the CMS-50E from your finger.
7) Re-enter the Settings menu as described above.
Scroll down to the Record menu item (It should still show "Record...on") (not supposed to be a Smily there...)
9) Press and hold the button a few seconds until it shows "Record...off"
10) Scroll down to exit the menu - the CMS-50E will turn itself off

Now you can connect the device to your computer. Turn it on and enter the settings menu (so that it does not turn itself off right away). At this point, launch the SpO2 software, and follow the instructions on the PulseOx store [ http://www.pulseoxstore.com/Manuals-Downloads.html ] (in the upper right for version 2.2) for SpO2 Assistant to download and view your data. If you have trouble with that part, let me know and I'll try to walk you through it.

Will this continue to track multiple nights of use if I don't download the data the next morning or day OR do I have to have the software installed and do it daily?

Each time you set the CMS-50E to record, it will erase the previously recorded information, so, yes, you will need to download the data some time before you wish to record again.

JohnO wrote:.....

The CMS-50E suffers from being tricky to learn the first time, but then so easy to use after that that the developers neglect to write a clear manual because, of course, they are already intimately familiar with it!

I can't speak to all units, since I think they vary just a little bit, but with mine, if you want to record, do the following:

1) Turn on the unit by pressing the button until the screen lights up
2) Once the first screen is visible (and it shows) "Finger Out," press the button until the Settings Menu appears
3) Press the button (short press) to move down the menu to Record, which should show "off."
4) Press the button (long press) and the item changes so you can enter the current time. Do that. Then continue to scroll right (using short presses) to select "Y" from the "Y/N" selection. The screen briefly says "Waiting..." then goes back to the menu, but now it shows "Record....On"
5) Place the CMS-50E on a finger, and try to fall asleep.
6) In the morning, remove the CMS-50E from your finger.
7) Re-enter the Settings menu as described above.
Scroll down to the Record menu item (It should still show "Record...on") (not supposed to be a Smily there...)
9) Press and hold the button a few seconds until it shows "Record...off"
10) Scroll down to exit the menu - the CMS-50E will turn itself off

Now you can connect the device to your computer. Turn it on and enter the settings menu (so that it does not turn itself off right away). At this point, launch the SpO2 software, and follow the instructions on the PulseOx store [ http://www.pulseoxstore.com/Manuals-Downloads.html ] (in the upper right for version 2.2) for SpO2 Assistant to download and view your data. If you have trouble with that part, let me know and I'll try to walk you through it.

Will this continue to track multiple nights of use if I don't download the data the next morning or day OR do I have to have the software installed and do it daily?

Each time you set the CMS-50E to record, it will erase the previously recorded information, so, yes, you will need to download the data some time before you wish to record again.

Shit! Since I only did the first step and nothing in the blue, I guess I failed in accomplishing anything.

Thanks for the info. Printing it out now.

lazer wrote:Shit! Since I only did the first step and nothing in the blue, I guess I failed in accomplishing anything.

Yes, I'm afraid you just succeeded in running it "live" over night. That will also burn more battery as it leaves the display lit up. When in recording mode, the display turns off. You may need you find to charge it again before sleep tonight.

JohnO wrote:

lazer wrote:Shit! Since I only did the first step and nothing in the blue, I guess I failed in accomplishing anything.

Yes, I'm afraid you just succeeded in running it "live" over night. That will also burn more battery as it leaves the display lit up. When in recording mode, the display turns off. You may need you find to charge it again before sleep tonight.

Yea it was kinda funky. I kept looking down at it until finally dozing off remembering seeing readings in the 90s and 80s whatever those were. I didn't know I would need a collage course to run this damn thing.

Thanks again for the help!

Ok, I'm at a loss with my CMS-50E. As my main pc is currently down due to a hard drive issue. I did manage to install and successfully run and import the night's data into it using my backup laptop.

Here comes the problem. I can no how, no way figure out how to get the data into sleepyhead. I googled some suggestions that seemed to point me over to the apnea board wiki regarding the 50D+ model I believe but none of this is making any sense

I even see the .SP02 files created in the software's directory that came with the unit as I mentioned I successfully installed and ran BUT when I try to select the import (SP02) bit via sleepyhead oximetery screen, the directory ends up not seeing any files and thus there is nothing to select.

When I power on my CMS-50E, the firmware shows as VER 1.3W
Do I need to update the firmware? Do I actually have the CMS-50ES or whatever model (bluetooth) that JohnO mentioned even though on the bottom of my unit, it clearly states CMS50E?

This is driving my crazy. I would like to be able to use this with SleepyHead and not rely on some other software. That is one of the whole reasons I purchased this model. Did I screw up?

lazer wrote: I even see the .SP02 files created in the software's directory that came with the unit as I mentioned I successfully installed and ran BUT when I try to select the import (SP02) bit via sleepyhead oximetery screen, the directory ends up not seeing any files and thus there is nothing to select.

You didn't screw up - it is just that the software that comes with the newer CMS-50E's (and/or EW) can not be read by Sleepyhead. Sleepyhead works by reading the files created by the software that ships with the pulse oximeter. The newer software creates files with the .SpO2 extention. Sleepyhead can not parse those files.

I submitted example files along with a bug report at SourceForge, where Mark (JediMark) maintains the software, but as other notes here have indicated, working on Sleepyhead is not his top priority right not.

Buyer Beware! These meters are only supported on PCs. These are not supported by Apple. No place on the buying website was this information revealed. Took over an hour to get "Not Supported" through web site.

I would like the case to be made of Gold but it isn't. Basically it's a O2 meter.