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Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:20 pm
by archangle
Lizistired wrote:GumbyCT wrote:GatorLord wrote:I usually have to get up at least once per night, usually right around the middle of the night, and I'll hit 'Info' and check my numbers and they are almost always really low...like '0.#'.
I could be wrong here but I don't think the machine has yet calculated your numbers at that point, so looking is pointless.
Gumby, Why would you think that? You get up and turn the machine off and look at the settings. Just like in the morning.
The machine doesn't know you are coming back after you pee. I know, it's late.
Make a note of the AHI you read in the middle of the night sometime, then check the data with SleepyHead later and see if it was giving you a current reading, or if it's delayed like Gumby says. I think I've heard before that it works like he says it does.
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:34 pm
by BlackSpinner
GumbyCT wrote:
The ironic thing is that most heart attack ambulance calls come between 5-6AM.
They don't call it the graveyard shift for nothing.
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:00 pm
by GumbyCT
BlackSpinner wrote:GumbyCT wrote:
The ironic thing is that most heart attack ambulance calls come between 5-6AM.
They don't call it the graveyard shift for nothing.
So true plus to me that IS the most unnatural shift to work. I don't care who you are just before the sun comes up you (or I did anyway) feel an uncontrollable urge to nod.
My heart goes out to all the sleep tech watching us sleep.
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:03 pm
by archangle
BlackSpinner wrote:GumbyCT wrote:
The ironic thing is that most heart attack ambulance calls come between 5-6AM.
They don't call it the graveyard shift for nothing.
A former ambulance guy told me that a lot of folks die on the toilet during their first movement of the morning.
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:25 pm
by ozze_dollar
GumbyCT wrote:The ONLY reason I have mastered this therapy and....
Continue to
put the mask on my face consistently each night....
is
so
I
can
continue
to pay
Alimoney
I wouldn't want to short change her
Just thought you'd like to know
Note to self: Don't forget to take meds too
ha ha ha
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:25 am
by GatorLord
archangle wrote:Lizistired wrote:GumbyCT wrote:GatorLord wrote:I usually have to get up at least once per night, usually right around the middle of the night, and I'll hit 'Info' and check my numbers and they are almost always really low...like '0.#'.
I could be wrong here but I don't think the machine has yet calculated your numbers at that point, so looking is pointless.
Gumby, Why would you think that? You get up and turn the machine off and look at the settings. Just like in the morning.
The machine doesn't know you are coming back after you pee. I know, it's late.
Make a note of the AHI you read in the middle of the night sometime, then check the data with SleepyHead later and see if it was giving you a current reading, or if it's delayed like Gumby says. I think I've heard before that it works like he says it does.
Thanks, this is exactly what I did after I posted my first impressions about the second half having more events. It seems that I have more centrals in the early going and more OAs and HAs later in the night. That said, and to the point of the puzzle, it does appear that the 'Info' button AHI number is accurate for the point in time it is used. In fact last night I was in terrible pain (which wrecks my sleep) and my first half numbers were crap and after I worked on some bothersome trigger points and sprayed my feet and calves with concentrated Epsom Salts, the pain and my sleep improved. The AHI actually went down from the middle of the night check to the morning one.
I also noticed that the machine doesn't seem to catch all the events, at least not to my eye. When I would look at the graphs of the flow rate you could see areas that were more wobbly, then when I blew them up, there were classic OA events that weren't flagged...sometimes a few right in a row. This is disturbing. It's disturbing enough to look at objective empirical data of you stopping breathing and then struggling for air afterwards and the machine is only catching 'most' of the events. Still, it's a whole lot better than before the machine. Maybe I should bump my lower pressure up...?
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:30 am
by gertrude
[quote="I also noticed that the machine doesn't seem to catch all the events, at least not to my eye. When I would look at the graphs of the flow rate you could see areas that were more wobbly, then when I blew them up, there were classic OA events that weren't flagged...sometimes a few right in a row. This is disturbing. It's disturbing enough to look at objective empirical data of you stopping breathing and then struggling for air afterwards and the machine is only catching 'most' of the events. Still, it's a whole lot better than before the machine. Maybe I should bump my lower pressure up...?[/quote]
I've noticed that not all the events are logged, but most of the ones I see are short. The diagnostic criteria is 10 seconds, and it looks as if the machine is using the same cut off point. None of my events logged in Sleepyhead are less than 10 seconds long. What I don't know is whether all those short disruptions in breathing have any physiological effect. ??? But I wouldn't up my pressure on account of them without knowing more.
Re: ...died in his/her sleep...
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:41 am
by makezmuzic
A very dear and wonderful friend of mine passed away that way. Supposedly, John Candy - the actor - died of a heart attack related to sleep apnea.