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Try this http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
I don't think it can get much simpler!

thanks for that.....good site!

I've been brainwashed against fat for so long that I just don't trust that I SHOULD eat high fat items! I'm scared to try that...

What about recent findings/publications about those who regularly eat meat, and all that?

Great site Jan, Thanks.

SleepingUgly wrote: What about recent findings/publications about those who regularly eat meat, and all that?

I'm guessing you're referring to the article/study discussed at the beginning of this thread. There are a few rebuttals at the beginning of this thread.

Also, Gary Taubes discusses the findings in his March 14th blog entry:
http://garytaubes.com/

Janknitz wrote:

by SleepingUgly on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:58 pm

I wish there was a simple list of what we should and should not eat, or how much to eat of what. I get that I shouldn't have bread, but I stand there holding the chummus and thinking, "5 grams of carbs for 2 tbsp with 1 gram of fiber... Does this mean, I should or should not eat this?!"

Try this http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
I don't think it can get much simpler!

Bookmarked... thanks!

There's a slew of articles talking about how poorly the red meat study was conducted if you are interested I'll post some.
Get your labwork done first--a cholesterol panel, fasting blood glucose and record your average blood pressure over a week. Try this for one month and repeat these tests. If your triglycerides go sky high (very unlikely) or your BP soars(also unlikely) then go back to whatever diet you're having now.

Sometimes people experience a temporary increase in trigs at first because that fat is being mobilized in your body or because of a genetic familial hypercholesterolemia( which should be confirmed with genetic testing) But most people will see an almost immediate improvement in lipids, blood sugars, and BP.

Don't skimp on fat! If you try to cut fat AND carbs you'll slow your metabolism and end up working against yourself. Dr. Eenfeldt and the Swedes call it "low carb HIGH FAT" for a reason.

SleepingUgly wrote:I wish there was a simple list of what we should and should not eat, or how much to eat of what. I get that I shouldn't have bread, but I stand there holding the chummus and thinking, "5 grams of carbs for 2 tbsp with 1 gram of fiber... Does this mean, I should or should not eat this?!"

S.U., I saw this rule of thumb the other day. Sorry, I can't give you a reference and I don't know, really, what kind of diet it pertains to. But, it went like this: If the ratio of carbs to fiber is 5:1 or less, OK; If the ratio is greater than 10:1, don't eat it; in between, I guess it depends on how good it looks.

Using that rule, your chick peas would be OK.

Jay

Janknitz wrote:Get your labwork done first--a cholesterol panel, fasting blood glucose and record your average blood pressure over a week. Try this for one month and repeat these tests. If your triglycerides go sky high (very unlikely) or your BP soars(also unlikely) then go back to whatever diet you're having now.

I don't have an internist at the moment. I fired mine a couple of years ago and don't have a new one yet. I don't have much need for internists, except for things like this, as I tend to see specialists. My BP gets monitored every week for allergy shots, as does my blood pressure, but the other things, which have never been a problem before, will have to wait.

SU, don't be afraid of eating full-fat foods - they are usually much better for you and if you choose wisely and buy foods with 'good' fats it will do you more good than harm. I've found that by not only eating low-carb, but also as few processed foods as possible, my health has greatly improved (my labs prove why I feel better too).

It's not easy becoming really familiar with what foods are low-carb, reading nutrition labels etc., but after putting in the effort it took me about six months before I was really comfortable with a large number of foods which fit into my low-carb plan.

Now I fly through the supermarket, only stopping to read labels on foods I need for certain recipes, that I haven't used before, or new foods I want to try. If the ingredient list reads more like something from a chemical lab than a farmer, then I don't even bother - low-carb or not.

Cheers,
xena

SleepingUgly wrote:

What about recent findings/publications about those who regularly eat meat, and all that?

From many of the people, most of whom are fitness types, whom I have talked to over the last 25 years and much of the reading I have done I believe beef is very good for health and longevity if you eat it in moderation and you do not have excess abdominal fat.

But if you do have a "spare tire", IMO you should not eat beef more than once per week.

I also minimize fatty cuts of any meat. I eat plenty of fat but mainly from nuts, peanuts, and olive oil and small quantities of dairy.

What's the low-carb position on dairy, such as cheese? I have two types of cheese at home and neither has any carbs. So eat all one wants of cheese??

SleepingUgly wrote:What's the low-carb position on dairy, such as cheese? I have two types of cheese at home and neither has any carbs. So eat all one wants of cheese??

My position is eat all the cheese you want. You have to eat something. I believe that the official Atkins position is no cheese during "induction," because dairy products do have some carbohydrates, but selected cheeses are something that gets added as you ease into the less vigorous phases of the diet.

Atkins Induction starts with a very restrictive diet--some vegetables, and meat, eggs, and fish. The only dairy on induction is a small amount of heavy cream for your coffee. Then as you move into "Ongoing Weight Loss" (OWL) you get to slowly add certain types of foods in 5 grams of carb increments. This is known as "climbing the carb ladder". Cheese doesn't get added until the "dairy rung". But that's just Atkins. Other low carb approaches do not limit cheese.

If you are doing a general LCHF, just count the carbs in your daily total. While you must get adequate protein, don't go overboard with protein (this is a moderate, NOT a high protein diet!). Excess protein will be metabolized into glucose. As long as you stay under 2 grams per pound of body mass you should be OK.

Cheese is a good, handy, portable food that gives protein and fat. An ideal low carb snack, or enhancement for a meal.

On several low carb lists, like the easy one a few posts ago, they all say, "can of mackerel." I use to have to feed my first PWD canned mackerel, (fresh mackerel was her diet in Portugual), I could barely get past the smell w'o upchucking to feed her. Do folks really like to eat this?

Here's a blog I read called "Carb Tripper" http://www.carbtripper.blogspot.com. She went on a quest to increase her omega 3's. And ate a LOT of fish. (read her archives).