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Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:48 am
by NightMonkey
leonbergergirl, but posing as guest wrote:If we are in USA could we keep it to English official language?

uh, ya gotta, uh, be kiddin, me, uh dude

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:38 am
by moresleep
Of course this is an English-language forum! I'm sure it is followed by a few fellow sufferers from non-English speaking countries; but, fortunately, many of them, such as our friends from "Down Under," know a few words of English and can follow along.

Seriously, though, it's not entirely improper to list foreign-language articles. Useful knowledge can be found in other places (remember, the Cpap was invented in Australia), and these days, one can always invoke an on-line interpreter and be amused (and bemused) by the results...

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:33 pm
by archangle
I think that list of articles is generated by some sort of search engine, not a human being, but I could be wrong. I think I've seen it pull in links that weren't sleep apnea related or even an article or two that weren't human readable.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:40 pm
by Perrybucsdad
BlackSpinner wrote: subjective meaning - f--king Anglos!(this is not legally an obscenity here), word for word - Bad English people tabernacle - French Canadian colloquial terms don't translate well.
It would be nice if you would censor this next time (I blanked out the quote above). Quite offensive if you ask me.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:42 pm
by Roger2
BlackSpinner wrote:subjective meaning - fucking Anglos!(this is not legally an obscenity here), word for word - Bad English people tabernacle - French Canadian colloquial terms don't translate well.
I think that you forgot that CPAPTALK is operated through the courtesy of CPAP.com, located in the US (10101 Stafford Centre Dr., Suite B, Stafford, TX 77477) and it does seem to violate their “CPAPtalk.com User Agreement” to wit;
While using CPAPtalk.com, you will not:



post any material, or links to any material that is (at our sole discretion) knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violates any law;

Abuse of CPAPtalk.com

CPAPtalk.com works together with its users to keep CPAPtalk.com operating properly and to help safeguard its users as much as possible. Please report to us any issues, inappropriate or offensive content, and violations of our policies.
In general I do find this language abusive, offensive and inappropriate to say the least.

Roger

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:08 pm
by chunkyfrog
It was my understanding that Blackspinner was roughly quoting a rant heard in Quebec, or thereabouts.
It does not offend me.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:22 pm
by BlackSpinner
chunkyfrog wrote:It was my understanding that Blackspinner was roughly quoting a rant heard in Quebec, or thereabouts.
It does not offend me.
Thank you

Of course for many people perceived obscenity is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT then bigotry or racism or any other life changing issue. And the gods forbid if they have to think out side of their little insular community, that people may have other standards.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:24 pm
by john_dozer
I went to a University that was quite mixed on the teaching staff and fellow students. And although what they spoke in class was supposedly English, it would have helped if they actually used the language outside class to help their fluency.

Accommodating one or two people in a group not well versed in English is ok. But when the problem is pervasive, lets just say the tower of Babel approach just doesn't work. Creates a burden that interferes with getting the job done.

As for speaking English in this kind of venue, I would say if you can speak it, speak it. Talking in a foreign language without adding a translation when you can is incredibly rude. Its equivalent to three people sitting down at a table and two whispering to each other in clear view of the 3rd person.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:32 pm
by chunkyfrog
It is too bad that so many minds get bogged down in presentation (obscenity, etc.), sacrificing content and understanding.
Language differences can contribute to that; but they can also provide humor.
My husband was traveling on a train in Belgium with his parents at the age of 3, when he excitedly pointed out horses from the train window. ('Kohnik' in Ukrainian) Nuns on the train were horrified--apparently the word is close to something really naughty in their language.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:25 pm
by MidnightOwl
john_dozer wrote:Talking in a foreign language without adding a translation when you can is incredibly rude. Its equivalent to three people sitting down at a table and two whispering to each other in clear view of the 3rd person.
I used to agree with this. Still do when it's print or conversation. But with translators available a couple of mouse clicks away it's not really true for the internet anymore.

For instance: http://translate.google.com/

The internet is a wonderful thing!

If that's too hard - skip the post. Life is too short to read every single one anyway.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:49 pm
by BlackSpinner
chunkyfrog wrote:It is too bad that so many minds get bogged down in presentation (obscenity, etc.), sacrificing content and understanding.
Language differences can contribute to that; but they can also provide humor.
My husband was traveling on a train in Belgium with his parents at the age of 3, when he excitedly pointed out horses from the train window. ('Kohnik' in Ukrainian) Nuns on the train were horrified--apparently the word is close to something really naughty in their language.
Yes and the name "Bill" I thought was hilarious when we moved to Canada. In the Dutch slang I knew it means butt cheek (or booty these days).

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:56 pm
by moresleep
Yes, let's not get bent out of shape over trifles. I would vote for an English-the-only-official-language law; but, I would also try to remain tolerant of those poor ignorant souls who do not yet know the language of God. Same goes for obscenity, only more so. Seems like everywhere you turn, someone is getting offended over something "obscene," "sexist," "racist," or, whatever; then, when you look closer, you realize it was something not meant to be taken seriously, or, something that probably never existed outside the fevered imagination of the accuser. Whatever happened to giving the other person the benefit of the doubt?

Viva le Ingleez!

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:16 pm
by napstress
Me gustó mucho ver un artículo aquí en español. Me da mucha alegría que este grupo incluye a todas las personas que tengan apnea del sueño. También, es muy útil aprender las palabras que se usan en español para describir esta condición así yo pueda hablar con otros que la tengan.

I very much liked seeing an article here in Spanish. I'm very happy that this group includes everyone who might have sleep apnea. Also, it's very useful to learn the words used in Spanish to describe this condition so I might speak with others who might have it.

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:17 pm
by Perrybucsdad
chunkyfrog wrote:It was my understanding that Blackspinner was roughly quoting a rant heard in Quebec, or thereabouts.
It does not offend me.
I understand, but censor the remarks a bit. Harsh language spelled out like that really doesn't belong in a civilized forum (I think we are civilized, right?).

Re: Thought this was English forum.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:35 pm
by Mary Z
Don't feed the troll.