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This is a reply to grumpygirl:
If you have odd effects when you first start bigger doses; the ones I've seen frequently are leg cramps or headaches, then usually it's magnesium deficiency, I learned that at vitamindcouncil, which is where you can find almost any question about D except questions about sleep which is the one thing I have on my site that they're not aware of. So go on vitamindcouncil and ask about the heart racing.
I have to tell you though that heart racing is frequently there in my young daily headache sufferers. I'm beginning to think that the biologic cause is inadequate action of the vagus nucleus, that is right next to the paralysis nucleus in the brainstem, the vagus slows the heart, so when you decrease the vagus action rapid heart rate results. That system repairs when you get your sleep fixed, but it's slow and takes weeks to months to work.

Jay Aitchsee wrote:I find this to be an interesting thread. Many of Dr Gominak's assertions seem logical. Now, here's something interesting too - I checked my refrigerator and found my skim milk had 25% DV of vitamin D and my soy milk had 30%. Checking the ingredients, the skim milk had D3 while the soy milk had D2! Who knew there was a difference?
Jay

Dr. Gominak, if testing for D25OH yields "total D" which will include D2 and if, as you suggest, D2 may interfere with normal sleep, do you think the amount of D2 supplementation in our foods is any cause for concern, either in test results or effects on sleep? Or, do you think the amounts of either type of supplement is to little to be of any consequence?

Jay

Stumbled across this.

Detailed Description:
Prospective, longitudinal, double bind, randomized study of the effect of vitamin D supplementation in OSAHS patients with hypovitaminosis D.

After written informed consent, patients will be randomized to receive a single dose of oral vitamin D (400 000 UI) or placebo. Subjects will undergo medical screening before randomisation into placebo or active group. Follow-up measurements will be performed at the beginning (day 0) and after 32 days of vitamin D supplementation: clinical examination, biological check up and sleep parameter evaluation. Patients will be instructed to stop using continuous positive airway pressure device for two nights before nocturnal sleep studies.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0 ... %22&rank=1

Thanks for the link, Liz.
Can someone who knows help me understand why the don't mention measuring Vitamin D in the serum after 32 days?

ozij wrote:Thanks for the link, Liz.
Can someone who knows help me understand why the don't mention measuring Vitamin D in the serum after 32 days?

I guess because they are just gathering data. One giant mega dose, and you might be in the placebo group. Maybe there is a subsequent study planned depending on the results of this one. You would hope.

Life cycle with correct circular ryhtem could be the caused of osa .....one and one of the major causes/trigger/contributors.....I took natural B12 from Marmite which includes B1,B2,B3.......follow by sunny walk of minimum of 5 to 9km walk every 2 or 3 days during winter and more frequent during summer and apnea drop most during summer and worst on winter.......go figure.

Mckooi

Hello To All- Finally got my D level checked last week- 51.1 and my Thyroid was 2.5. Both of these are "normal" according to my Doc. I would like to get my D to 60 and I'm still not so sure I don't have a thyroid problem. I can't get anyone to pay attention to me about that- everyone says my symptoms of fatique, anxiety, muscle pain and sleep problems have nothing to do with my thyroid(but they can't tell me why I feel so lousy). My GYN just said I am getting older and have no hormones!! HA! I already knew that but I still had to pay him for that diagnosis.
I felt horrible all weekend-went out of town to my niece's wedding and could not sleep and woke up early. Helped with the food at the reception and hardly got to eat myself, but the event was lovely and I am so glad I went. On my drive back home(6 hrs) I felt so bad I thought I would have to pull over and rest awhile but I made it home. Couldn't fall asleep last night even though I was bone tired-took 1/2 a Xanax and slept a little but woke up early again. I wonder if my problems could be
adrenal fatique. In the evening I often have this strange feeling in my stomach area (it's hard to describe) like little mice running around in there - no pain or anything just this odd feeling of anxiety. Sometimes I have it just as I am laying down with my cpap on. It doesn't happen every night but more often than I would like. That is what makes me thing my poor adrenals are over worked. Any thoughts on this guys???
I am going to up my D from 3,500 IU to about 5,000 IUs a day and see how that works. Thanks for listening-GG

@grumpygirl..... a TSH of 2.5 is considered the high end of normal according to the American Thyroid Association (normal being .5 to 2.5). Most labs score 'normal' up to 4 so your doctor is correct in saying you are in the normal zone. I like to keep my TSH around 2.

Your D3 is pretty good.... but as Dr. G said, and the vitaminDcouncil as well, optimal results should be between 60-80. A couple of other things to check or try supplementing with reasonable amounts is your B12 and your magnesium. Anxiety is an indicator of B12 deficiency, and muscle pain is a clear indicator of magnesium deficiency... which almost all of us are deficient in. It is very hard to absorb, however, and pills tend to lose most of their potency as they travel through the digestive system. Transdermal magnesium 'oil' is highly absorbable and has many benefits. For B12, I use a sublingual tab that dissolves under the tongue and is quickly absorbed via mucus membranes.

These are very easily researched on the web....

I think there is something to the vitamin D connection, see check out the Federal clinical trials there is one investigating Vita D deficiency and OSA.
For myself, it has made a big difference although I should mention I am not obese. I was diagnosed with mild OSA at 5'3" and 145lbs. I also had a vitamin D deficiency and was hypothyroid taking synthroid daily. I lost ten pounds and was able to get my Vitamin D up with a prescription dose and now maintaining it with 2000iu/day over the counter. It has been an amazing improvement although my doctor has ordered an ultrasound of my thyroid since I may have nodules that might be interfering as well. I think its worth getting your Vitamin D level checked and trying to improve it if its low, it beats CPAP.

rotsy wrote:I think there is something to the vitamin D connection, see check out the Federal clinical trials there is one investigating Vita D deficiency and OSA.
For myself, it has made a big difference although I should mention I am not obese. I was diagnosed with mild OSA at 5'3" and 145lbs. I also had a vitamin D deficiency and was hypothyroid taking synthroid daily. I lost ten pounds and was able to get my Vitamin D up with a prescription dose and now maintaining it with 2000iu/day over the counter. It has been an amazing improvement although my doctor has ordered an ultrasound of my thyroid since I may have nodules that might be interfering as well. I think its worth getting your Vitamin D level checked and trying to improve it if its low, it beats CPAP.

Do you mean a big difference in your OSA? Care to share any details?
I started taking 4-6K OTC daily after watching the Dr G's videos and I think I am sleeping longer and more soundly because of it. Sleep hygiene seems to make less of a difference now too. I already had my apneas controlled but the sleep is better. fingers crossed.

I just received results of labs on Vit D. After taking 10K IU per day for four weeks, my levels have increased from 23 ng to 52 ng. My doc is having me increase amounts by an additional 10K per week to bring me closer to the targeted 60-80 ng range. I am also taking Vit. B12 liquid, Vit. K2 and magnesium supplements in addition to a multi vitamin. My sleep quality might be marginally improved, but not enough to say for sure. (my problems have been with waking up at 3 to 5 a.m., not with falling asleep). I have begun trying to wean myself from the CPAP machine, and am surprised that I am able to do so without problems. Last night, I didn't use it at all. I have shed 20 pounds this year, which might account for it. However, my sleep apnea has always been considered on the mild side. I will post another update after the next blood test or if I notice appreciable changes. I am interested in reading about results others are having with Vitamin D supplementation.

For our Canadian members, I thought you might find this interesting from the Vitamin D Council: http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=f54 ... f9d150751c

@sleeppapotomus.... Remember that the only way to know if being off cpap is ok is via another sleep study. Weaning yourself off it is not wise, IMHO..... just sayin'

there's connection w vit D and asthma

I can't help thinking without further impartial study, it's still chicken vs egg.
Further, no amount of research will account for or identify exceptions--and we are all unique in one way or another.
Best to address both apnea and vitamin levels separately unless closely monitored in a study. IMHO.