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Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:19 am
by WestCoastCdnGrl
ozze_dollar wrote:
PST wrote:
kempo wrote: Big business have been leaving this country for years to move to Canada, Europe, and the far East to flee the 35% corporate taxes we have in the U.S. If the U.S. would drop corporate taxes to 20% like the rest of the world, the economy would boom. Lowering taxes increases tax revenue. It always has and it always will.
There is a web site called World Tax Rates 2010/2011, http://www.taxrates.cc, that shows corporate tax rates for most countries. A disclaimer notes that determining rates can be difficult, and I suppose some places may have differences between industries or locations, but the site didn't seem to have an ax to grind. Among the figures it gives for advanced countries or fast-growing countries:

Australia 30%
Canada 34%
China 25%
France 33.33%
Germany 33.3%
India 33.99%
Japan 40.87%
Mexico 30%
U.K. 28%

Most of those are a scooch less than that of the U.S., but it would take a pile of evidence to convince me that for years companies have been moving to Canada, say, for that 2 percent difference. In any event, it doesn't look like there is a world 20 percent standard. There were a few countries in the last decade that got a reputation for attracting businesses with especially low income tax rates, but some of those, like Ireland, are basket cases now.

In addition, it is notoriously the case that American companies do not, on average, pay anywhere close to 35 percent because of a broad variety of subsidies, shelters, and special breaks. There was an interesting story in the New York Times a few months ago, "U.S. Business Has High Tax Rates but Pays Less," http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/busin ... rates.html. Perhaps the most interesting information was this:
In addition to being complex and uneven, the United States corporate tax code is inefficient and has become a diminishing source of revenue. Corporate taxes accounted for about 9 percent of all federal revenue in 2010. At $191 billion, they were equal to 1.3 percent of the nation's gross domestic product. Most industrial countries collect more from companies, about 2.5 percent of output.
I would certainly like to see us close the loopholes and reduce the rate. Every sensible person would. But I'm not holding my breath.
It is very difficult to compare taxes.We need to include direct taxes like a GST. Taxes on petrol and also payroll taxes.
Agreed.

In Canada, most provinces and Territories have provincial sales tax (Alberta is the only province that does not) in addition to a federal Goods and Services Tax.

In the province of British Columbia, there is also a carbon tax and a quite hefty public roads & transit tax on the cost of petrol in addition to the PST/GST (it currently costs CAD 1.36$/L or USD 5.24$/gal to fill up in suburban Vancouver).

Fortunately though, there is no sales tax on CPAP equipment/supplies, whether purchased in Canada or imported in from elsewhere.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:46 am
by Vader
NightMonkey wrote:
SleepyT wrote:
ShortSeller wrote:...So Well seems to be the 2nd biggest Attention Whore on this board.
Of course, this begs the question.....who is first?
Maybe it is ShortSeller? He has already established himself as an ass under the name Mike6977 (search.php?author_id=57648&sr=posts) and now seems to want to start over calling himself ShortSeller.
ShortSeller
Also Posted As:
(Mike6977)
Mike6977 a.k.a. ShortSeller? ...was that the guy with THIS avatar?
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Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:42 pm
by DanDuPree
You need to see your sleep specialist. You must be suffering from oxygen deprivation associated with severe sleep apnea. That and a FAUX OD.

I know Karl Rove has been training morons on HOW TO REWRITE HISTORY, but if you ignore the BS, any idiot has to realize that without the public work policies and money that FDR got moving, the US would have still been in the middle of the worst of the depression, and we would not have had the infrastructure nor manufacturing capability to FIGHT THE D@MN NAZIS IN WWII. YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN INSTEAD OF REPUBLICANTESE.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:58 pm
by Vader
DanDuPree wrote:You need to see your sleep specialist. You must be suffering from oxygen deprivation associated with severe sleep apnea. That and a FAUX OD.

I know Karl Rove has been training morons on HOW TO REWRITE HISTORY, but if you ignore the BS, any idiot has to realize that without the public work policies and money that FDR got moving, the US would have still been in the middle of the worst of the depression, and we would not have had the infrastructure nor manufacturing capability to FIGHT THE D@MN NAZIS IN WWII. YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN INSTEAD OF REPUBLICANTESE.
gee, Dan...you signed up at this forum just today, so you could insult all the Republicans here, within only your first TWO posts?!

The usual procedure for first posts, usually starts off with something like "Hi, I'm new here, nice to meet ALL you fine folks"

Nice to see you, Dan. Welcome!

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:32 pm
by kempo
NotMuffy wrote:Just one asteroid.

And it wouldn't even have to be that big.

Just say, about the size of Rhode Island.

Coming in at 25,000 miles an hour.

Poof.
Yep, it's happened before and it's going to happen again and there ain't a damn thing we can do about it. If you are here when it happens pray it lands right on top of you so it will be painless.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:50 am
by Mike6977
SleepyT wrote:
ShortSeller wrote:...So Well seems to be the 2nd biggest Attention Whore on this board.
Of course, this begs the question.....who is first?
Of course it's me.

Or was.

My recent posts are quite sedate.
NightMonkey wrote: Maybe it is ShortSeller? He has already established himself as an ass under the name Mike6977
Some of my later posts were trollish, but others had real content, (like exactly what ResMed considers too many returns of a mask) imho. But you're entitled to your opinion.

I challenge you to name five other people who share it.

Forget that, that's too damn easy, name at least twenty.


NightMonkey wrote: and now seems to want to start over calling himself ShortSeller.
Naw, I had other reasons for making that single post as ShortSeller.

If I wanted to start over, all I would have to do is delete my cookies, reboot my modem, or post through a non-transparent proxy.

That I was visible as Mike6977 was obvious as hell, be serious.

And if I really wanted to start all over, a "tora, tora, tora" command to a bot would do the trick.

NotMuffy wrote:Just one asteroid.

And it wouldn't even have to be that big.

Just say, about the size of Rhode Island.

Coming in at 25,000 miles an hour.

Poof.

Way too big, distinguished girlfriend.

Something that size would be a Earth Sterilizing Impact.

Hmmm, I do remember reading some projection that we're statistically overdue for such an event . . .

I keep seeing it in my dreams.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:34 am
by rested gal
Mike6977 wrote:Something that size would be a Earth Sterilizing Impact.
Which may be the point.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:31 am
by BlackSpinner
Oh look the republicans have found a way to [ur=http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/0 ... wn-halls/l]raise money![/url] Just make everyone pay $15 to talk to them.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:23 am
by Vader
As long as folks are reviving this thread, this is a MUST SEE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsn25aQ ... e=youtu.be

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:38 pm
by Mike6977
rested gal wrote:
Mike6977 wrote:Something that size would be a Earth Sterilizing Impact.
Which may be the point.
Hi rested gal! (In Sotto voce:) (Shhh, not so loud, didn't you get the memo?)

Since the title of the thread is "FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA", I naturally assumed NotMuffy was describing what it would take to destroy the USA.

But a comet her size would kill everything, including adorable baby panda bears in Australia.

Surely, she wouldn't want that?

NotMuffy, are you a fan of death metal?

Do you titrate it to 100db, delivered via earphones, when working at your sleep lab?

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Vader wrote:As long as folks are reviving this thread, this is a MUST SEE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsn25aQ ... e=youtu.be
Fair enough. I'll see your video, and raise you one.

Get past the Warren Buffet part in the beginning, that's old news.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-a ... share_copy

Just remember, I'm a hard-core capitalist, been one since I was 15.


Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:49 pm
by Vader
I musn't have been paying close enough attention...

Are you saying Mike6977 = NotMuffy?

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:56 pm
by Mike6977
No.

Mike6977<NotMuffy.

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:45 am
by mars
Mike6977 wrote:

But a comet her size would kill everything, including adorable baby panda bears in Australia.


Hi Mike

I wouldn't want anyone to think you didn't know what you were talking about, but these are baby pandas -

http://www.pandafix.com/pandafix/2007/0 ... ndas_.html

and, making a wild guess here about what I think you thought you meant, this is a baby koala -

you will need to scroll down for the video

http://www.celsias.com/article/not-the-koala-bears-too/

Now we have cleared that up I should mention that Pandas are indigenous to China, and Koalas are indigenous to Australia.

Written in the interest of helping those who confuse China with Australia, and vice-versa. There is a difference.

cheers

Mars

Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:16 am
by Mike6977
Damn, is everything made in China?

I stand corrected, thanks Mars.


Re: FDR Nearly Destroyed the USA; Obama Using Same Policies

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:29 am
by islandboy5150
Mars that's got to be the best avatar I've ever seen. Did you take it?