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Pugsy wrote:

wrote:As for the data via modem to the doc and DM

Encore Anywhere..special modem attached to the back of the machine over the slot where the SD card goes.
Unsure if there is an extra fee. With this DME can check hours of use and gather other data if the machine offers it and they can make changes to machine via the modem.

That's it....thanks Pugsy

GumbyCT wrote:

dwynne wrote: One DME had a 30 day mask trial program, the others did not.

That is BS. They all get it from the mask manufacturer BUT they have to submit paper work. So someone is lying....NO surprise.

I suppose there's no legal requirement that the DME be willing to participate in mask manufacturer's exchange programs. I suppose the mask manufacturer could require them to participate. Or that DMEs have to sign up for the program, meet certain requirements, etc. before they can do the 30 day exchange program.

i.e. they may very well not offer this service.

archangle wrote:

GumbyCT wrote:

dwynne wrote: One DME had a 30 day mask trial program, the others did not.

That is BS. They all get it from the mask manufacturer BUT they have to submit paper work. So someone is lying....NO surprise.

I suppose there's no legal requirement that the DME be willing to participate in mask manufacturer's exchange programs. I suppose the mask manufacturer could require them to participate. Or that DMEs have to sign up for the program, meet certain requirements, etc. before they can do the 30 day exchange program.

i.e. they may very well not offer this service.

Fact is each mask manufacturer has a 30 day mask exchange program AND extends that program to each distributor. IF you choose to do business with a vendor who will not honor it, well that is your choice. Not a good choice but certainly something you can do to keep places like that in business, if you choose to.

Any veteran will tell you the mask is the key to success yet is the single hardest part of cpap therapy. Not to mention most expensive.

I THINK they meant the DME could pull the card an upload the data, the doc could download and analyze, then upload new setting that the DME could then use on your machine (all without a modem in the machine). The user, perhaps, could pull the card and upload the data for the doc?

dwynne wrote:I THINK they meant the DME could pull the card an upload the data, the doc could download and analyze, then upload new setting that the DME could then use on your machine (all without a modem in the machine). The user, perhaps, could pull the card and upload the data for the doc?

Perhaps you should clarify then cuz I don't think it would work that way. It is Encore Anywhere that does all that automatically without intervention. It just bypasses the user or patient.

I had my follow up with sleep doc today, got my machine (S9 VPAP Auto w/humidifier and climateline). My AHI during my study may be a record - 171.1 . I am gong to go on supplemental O2 along my my bilevel PAP therapy. Sleep doc said it was a wonder I could function at all much less drive and work. My O2 got into the 60% range at worst and at best was 70-80s.

Question: can I run my equipment on a normal computer UPS? Both for surge protection and to keep running during short power outages. Many UPS units don't product a pure sine wave so may not work properly with the PAP equipment?

Thanks

dwynne wrote:I had my follow up with sleep doc today, got my machine (S9 VPAP Auto w/humidifier and climateline). My AHI during my study may be a record - 171.1 . I am gong to go on supplemental O2 along my my bilevel PAP therapy. Sleep doc said it was a wonder I could function at all much less drive and work. My O2 got into the 60% range at worst and at best was 70-80s.

Question: can I run my equipment on a normal computer UPS? Both for surge protection and to keep running during short power outages. Many UPS units don't product a pure sine wave so may not work properly with the PAP equipment?

Thanks

You prob could but when the UPS alarms it will wake you.

O thats right the Resmeds are fussy. You better wait for the Resmed operatives to tell you, not sure if they are allowed to say.

It's prob best to focus on wearing the mask all nite first before taking on other things. Start that notebook yet?

dwynne wrote:...My AHI during my study may be a record - 171.1

Wow yeah, I think that's a record here too! Welcome to forum & the delights of being a hosehead...like ladies tights fixes for masks, nipple gease for pillow masks, daily or not cleaning routines, backup everything packed for any emergency trips to the hospital, oh and search for carbonman's thread on de lure of the (perfect) mask

dwynne wrote:...Many UPS units don't product a pure sine wave so may not work properly with the PAP equipment?

That's a real problem for ResMed xPAPs. There's plenty of posts on battery backup for novices to experts from some very knowledgeable members.

Might consider asking your doc for a script for a recording pulse-ox (oximeter) 'cause it'll tell you your overnight O2 levels and pulse rates. With your numbers and equipment, I don't think your doc will object. This is good for monitoring the effectiveness of your therapy and assessing how well you are sleeping and then over time how well you are accommodating/healing with xPAP therapy. I have one on order to use during power outages as I'll set it to alarm at 91% to wake me if I start desatting -- no power backup yet but even rated severe, my numbers are a lot lower than yours and my sleep doc isn't concerned with me sleeping nekid a night or 2...yeah, well that's his opinion but it's my life, and as far as I'm concerned desatting kills cells and induces death Battery backup is on my wish list right now.

I haven't started looking until now, but those are assuredly on my list to see!! I've heard they're magnificent

And hardly a word of counsel looking for those that are looking at the gowns - not all styles are that fully made. When you are shopping or having your gown custom-made, check the duct seams and hems etc because on occasion they are uncommonly dodgy.

dwynne wrote:I had my follow up with sleep doc today, got my machine (S9 VPAP Auto w/humidifier and climateline). My AHI during my study may be a record - 171.1 . I am gong to go on supplemental O2 along my my bilevel PAP therapy. Sleep doc said it was a wonder I could function at all much less drive and work. My O2 got into the 60% range at worst and at best was 70-80s.

Question: can I run my equipment on a normal computer UPS? Both for surge protection and to keep running during short power outages. Many UPS units don't product a pure sine wave so may not work properly with the PAP equipment?

Thanks

Congratulations! Sounds like you got a good machine.

There's so much hype about pure sine/modified sine inverters that the truth is hard to find. I can tell you the technical differences, but I can't tell you how the equipment is really going to react. Also, just because you plug it in and nothing bad happens doesn't mean it won't happen later.

Even on a pure sine wave inverter, I'm sure the manufacturer would LOVE to blame any machine failures on your inverter/UPS instead of their own equipment, so they will tend to tell you "pure sine wave." If you have a problem, don't tell them you were using an inverter.

One good thing is that most of the CPAP machines use external power bricks, which are usually what gets hit by power problems and they're easy to replace.

I'd be tempted to say just use the equipment without a UPS. Use a surge protector. It's really unlikely to do any harm to have a surge protector. If you want backup power, get a battery and the ResMed DC power adapter. You'll probably get a lot longer run time that way.

archangle wrote:There's so much hype about pure sine/modified sine inverters that the truth is hard to find. I can tell you the technical differences, but I can't tell you how the equipment is really going to react.

The term "pure sine wave" is subjective. Therefore this is a typical 120 V pure sine wave output: 200 volt square waves with a spike of up to 270 volts. Those square waves are nothing more than sums of sine waves. So they are not lying. They are playing for fools anyone who thinks subjectively.

A minimally sufficient inverter will define it with numbers. If %THD is more than 5% or if that number is not provided, then it is a potentially harmful inverter. Preferred is a %THD of 2% or less. Most UPS manufacturers will not state that number so that myths of 'clean' power are generated. That output power is potentially destructive to power strip protectors and small electric motors. Power intended for electronics. Because electronics are required to be more robust.

Muse-Inc wrote:Might consider asking your doc for a script for a recording pulse-ox (oximeter) 'cause it'll tell you your overnight O2 levels and pulse rates. With your numbers and equipment, I don't think your doc will object. This is good for monitoring the effectiveness of your therapy and assessing how well you are sleeping and then over time how well you are accommodating/healing with xPAP therapy. I have one on order to use during power outages as I'll set it to alarm at 91% to wake me if I start desatting -- no power backup yet but even rated severe, my numbers are a lot lower than yours and my sleep doc isn't concerned with me sleeping nekid a night or 2...yeah, well that's his opinion but it's my life, and as far as I'm concerned desatting kills cells and induces death Battery backup is on my wish list right now.

I asked and they said that the insurance would not pay for one (purchase) but the sleep doc has one I can borrow (the expensive Resmed integrated one). I purchased the CMS-50E recording oximeter from a dealer on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... yctoure-20 on my own to watch things for myself.

I was only UP once last night (first night on the machine and without extra O2) but slept just OK. I feel better today than yesterday but not "well" (yet). I tried to read the info off the S9 display this morning but I can't find it. Looks like they put sleep quality in usage and the PAP in mode S (not auto). I switched sleep mode but still nothing much to show. I pulled the SD and dumped the files off of it, but not found a copy (yet) of the Resmed reader program.

Hopefully I will hear from the O2 DME today to get that going. Otherwise, night 1 went "ok" and only a couple of mask sore spots.

If I set the oximeter alarm at 91% I wuould never get any sleep, that is about my "normal" level right now.

dwynne wrote: I pulled the SD and dumped the files off of it, but not found a copy (yet) of the Resmed reader program.

Check Uncle_Bob's signature for software and while there get the clinician manual so you can figure out how to access the data on screen. Need to check before Noon or it goes away as ResMed uses Noon to reset things on the LED screen.

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Pugsy wrote:Check Uncle_Bob's signature for software and while there get the clinician manual so you can figure out how to access the data on screen. Need to check before Noon or it goes away as ResMed uses Noon to reset things on the LED screen.

I have the manual (now) and it looks like: "To access the Advanced Info menu, press and hold the Info and Setup buttons for three seconds. This provides patients with additional therapy settings and compliance information."

By the time I get home it be too late for "today".

Should i give my real info on that Resmed software form or not? I do own an S9 now (or the insurance company does) or should I just make stuff up? does anyone check it?

Thanks

dwynne wrote: Should i give my real info on that Resmed software form or not? I do own an S9 now (or the insurance company does) or should I just make stuff up? does anyone check it?

You can make it up. No one checks it. Just be sure to put the check mark agreeing to use it under physician direction.
I wondered about this also and just yesterday did a download of ResScan. I made up everything. Download started without any hesitation.