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Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:50 am
by lward1978
tallon, I used the spell check and missed the fact that it changed the word provent to prevent. I have edited and corrected. I am not a spamer robot, but do find your policing of the forum ammusing. Im going out on a limb here but guess you are one of the people that belive the lunar landing was filmed in someones basement, correct?
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:59 am
by nanwilson
I agree with what Mike said...now there are more typos including "Tallon". We know who you are Mike but does the poster??
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:18 am
by lward1978
No I do not know who any of you are, I just signed up today. I came across this forum because I was researching Provent to see if there were reviews from real people and not just case studies posted by the company. I thought this was a forum for people with OSA, Sorry if my spelling and grammor are not perfect. I do have untreated OSA that could very well contribute to my overall lack of cognative function, or maybe I could care less if I spell every word correctly.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:23 am
by TalonNYC
Perfectly understandable. Sign up, join in, and let's see if we can help.
To answer your question:
Yes, a few folks here have tried Provent. No major success stories so far, but no major failures either. The jury is still very much out on if they work or not, and for how long the efficacy will last.
I do apologize for getting off on the wrong foot. Your posting was just too close to what the paid Provent spammers post all over the net. Granted, they post that way because real people also post that way.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:47 am
by lward1978
No offense taken, I can see your concern with phony spammers waisting your time. You said a few people have tried Provent and the results are so so. How can I view their past post or ask them questions? Please let me know. Thanks
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:57 am
by TalonNYC
Probably the easiest way would be to type Provent into the search system (under the logo up top). It's a bit brute-force, but it'll show all the posts related to the device.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:39 pm
by NightMonkey
lward1978 wrote:I am a respiratory therapist with OSA. I am very familiar with all things OSA related including treatment. I have tried and tried to get used to CPAP but like so many others HATE IT WITH A PASSION!!! Yes i have tried many different mask and though many are better than others CPAP is still CPAP. I have thrown in the towel and currently do nothing to treat my OSA. I am very interested in the Provent therapy and i am considering ordering the 10 day trial, at this point I have nothing to loose(except $20). Like many of you I question the effectiveness of Provent, especially for people like myself that mouth breath and have major air leaks with CPAP. My main concern with the Provent is what happens on expiration if you allow air to escape from your mouth dropping your end expiratory pressure in you airway to zero therefore allowing airway collapse? No inspiratory pressure is applied to prop open the obstructed airway. I do belive Provent can help decrease the number of apneas caused by obstructions but most likely will not be able do the same job as CPAP. Oh well, like I said it is better than my current treatment option. I would love to hear from people who have used Provent and their experiences. I work in a hospital with a large population of OSA patients and we have a very busy CPAP clinic but have never herd of Provent until watching the news one day, that doesnt exactly give me much faith in the product. I hope that is because it is fairly new and is not covered by insurance companies yet.
Since you are currently not treating your OSA, I think $20 for a trial of Provent is a huge bargain.
You are right about mouthbreathing, the pressure would be lost and Provent would be entirely ineffective. So, if you try it and find you are mouthbreathing, then use a chinstrap or tape to keep your mouth closed tight.
If you search here in the CPAP Wiki you can find a method for sealing your lips with tape.
There are also lots of posts on chinstraps. Chinstraps work by hold the jaw up but don't often seal the lips to prevent pressure leaks. This is a different type of chinstrap that just might seal the lips
http://sleepapneasolutionsinc.com/ I haven't tried it so I can't comment on its effectiveness.
If you do try Provent, please post your results back in this thread.
Thanks.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:56 pm
by archangle
lward1978 wrote:tallon, I used the spell check and missed the fact that it changed the word provent to prevent. I have edited and corrected. I am not a spamer robot, but do find your policing of the forum ammusing. Im going out on a limb here but guess you are one of the people that belive the lunar landing was filmed in someones basement, correct?
Well, lward's credibility just went down several notches.
Re: Provent
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:48 am
by RochNY
I ordered the 10 day supply, it was great my snoring was toleralbe or gone and my husband now sleeps in our room every night. The cost ranges from $56-$65 but there may be a better price I haven't found. Provent does not sell the product itself you need to get it from another supplier. I recommend it 100% and this is not a shill. It is not covered by insurance yet but I hoping someday it will. I just call my dr and he faxes in the Rx no office visit. Try the 10 day supply if you are unsure but you will like it.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:09 pm
by moresleep
Seems to defy common sense. Ok, so the Provent provides pressure while you exhale; but, during inhale, when you are most in need of pressure to keep the airways open, it provides no pressure and probably some extra resistance that makes the airways even more likely to collapse. I'll try snakeoil, instead...
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:54 pm
by Mary Z
According to Dr. Rapoport for those who can tolerate the Provent device it does work for some (forget the percent). He was not sure why it worked except that having increased expiratory pressure may keep the airway open for the inhale.
He also said it's hard to get used to, but if you have trouble breathing through your nose while awake just breathe through your mouth. Apparantly most of us breathe through the nose while asleep.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:43 am
by zorrro13
Spammers on every forum on the net. i just got an email on this product in Australia, we are always the last to get anything
Anyone got anything good to report? Im 100% compliant with cpap therapy after 7 years of trying so dont really need it but it sure would be useful for short term usage even at 50% for 1 night it wouldn't kill us.
Re: Provent therapy
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:24 am
by rsw
I see that the string of comments about Provent stopped a few months ago with no reliable reports based on actual usage and at a time when insurance apparently did not cover the product. Does anyone have updates based on personal usage or on reputable testing of the product? Has insurance coverage changed?
Studies. The Wall Street Journal (April 19, 2011, p. D2) reported on several studies conducted by Ventus, the firm who launched Provent. The article also included limited commentary from sleep study experts who wanted more and better studies. The article states that some doctors claim that Prevent is less effective than CPAP and offer it as an option only to patients with mold-to-moderate sleep apnea.
Insurance. Has anyone had success in getting insurance coverage for Provent? $2 a day seem like a lot of money for the kind of product this is. If the product catches on, maybe the cost will come down to reflect cheaper unit costs from higher volume production.
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:31 pm
by chunkyfrog
The summary of the provent issue is this:
"How often does apnea present itself only at the front end of the nose (the nares?)
I would imagine more relief from a breathe-rite strip, as it works a little further back.
It is commonly observed that apnea nearly always occurs much further inside the nasal and throat structures;
hence the development of fairly (and sometimes extremely) invasive surgery to address the problem--
(largely semi- or unsuccessfully--except for tracheotomy in the past)
You have revived an old thread, and you are forgiven.
We understand that it is difficult to acept the expense and use of all this equipment;
but know this: CPAP is the GOLD STANDARD for treating apnea at this time.
It can save your life and vastly improve your quality of life--but you have to work at it.
We are here to help one another.
--except for the spammers trying to sell this snake oil. (my opinion)
Re: Provent therapy.com
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:09 pm
by Kairosgrammy
I don't see why that would work myself. OSA is caused by the collapse of the soft palate and pharyngeal muscles causing a stoppage of air. Keeping your nose open wouldn't seem to solve that problem. There are dental devices that are supposedly affective. Shoot a chin strap will hold the jaw forward and do more than I would imagine provent therapy would do. JMO.
terio2 wrote:Anyone try yet. No cpap. However, not on any insurance and it is expensive. Use one nite and throw away. The few DME's want a specific script.