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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:01 am
by Guest
By the way, the above post was by me--
Cameo Ann
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:06 am
by Guest
Sorry again. This last post was also by me--
Cameo Ann
(I sure wish that I could sign in!)
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:19 pm
by Sleeping With The Enemy
Okay, I think one very important point to make along with any surgery that may assist in getting off of CPAP is that a lot of us are FAT and need to LOSE WEIGHT!
I am 5'4" and currently am 207, which is down from 221 since my reflux surgery on 12/14.
Those who are not overweight or think they are not, probably have fat necks or some other structural problem that needs to be dealt with.
Just my opinion. I am going to try like never before to make this a year of getting healthier. I am brain tumor free, I no longer have GERD and now its time to start losing weight and get rid of this hose.
Heidi
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:20 pm
by snork1
just my non-professional observation....
It sure SEEMS like a high proportion of apnea sufferers have obstructed noses/sinuses.
After reading the results of the "successes" of UPPP, it seems as though most apnea folks would be better off addressing getting their noses working through surgery (if that is an issue, as identified by a GOOD ENT), which MIGHT lower your AHI as much as UPPP, and at the very least results in IMPROVED CPAP therapy, not worse, as often happens with UPPP.
I got my snozz working with surgery and my auto-pressure range dropped from a pegged out 10-14cm, to a usually bottom end 6-14cm, which I am now dropping further with another device to about 5-6cm average. Below which I hit stall speed for myself being able to breath on CPAP without feeling like I am suffocating on CO2 backwash.
My AHI was only 38 to begin with though and is primarily NOT weight related, so I no guarantees of similar results for extreme cases or other root causes.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:05 pm
by Swordz
After reading the detailed report that OZIJ broke down, I stumbled on this:
"A comprehensive review of the OSA surgery literature33 showed that UPPP has been one of the most commonly performed, yet one of the least effective, surgeries for OSAS."
Using the criteria of postoperative AHI < 20 or AI < 10 or > 50% reduction in either value, 137 of 337 patients from 37 independent case series were successful responders, for a combined success rate of only 41%."
Scary to think how many people get UP3's, and are told by docs that it'll be successful. Whoooooooooo....
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:56 pm
by Sleeping With The Enemy
Everyone is looking for a miracle cure--while evading the major culprit "FAT".
This includes me!