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Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:09 pm
by CruzTerri
My recent lab tests showed that I was deficient in Vitamin D and the doctor prescribe 2,000/day for me. That's what I'm taking now.

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:40 pm
by xenablue
KimberlyM wrote:
Slinky wrote:KimberlyM, you CAN OVERDOSE on Vitamin D.

I am also on a high dose of Vitamin D PRESCRIBED BY MY DOCTOR. I have Crohn's disease which can cause malabsorption problems and at one time I WAS scripted 100,000 IU WEEKLY which has since been reduced to 50,000 IU once every other week BY MY DOCTOR. I have routine blood tests done, not just for Vitamin D levels but also for a few other things that excessive Vitamin D can cause or affect.
I was thinking of taking a calcium supplement that has 800 mg of D along with my vitamin that has 400 mg, with a combined total of 1200 mg. Thank you for letting me know though, because I do know some vitamins can have a toxicity level.
Be careful taking a calcium supplement unless you really are low in that mineral. My calcium levels are a little high and my endo said to absolutely not take any extra, even in a multi. I wasn't, and don't.

Cheers,
xena

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:20 pm
by KimberlyM
xenablue wrote:
KimberlyM wrote:
Slinky wrote:KimberlyM, you CAN OVERDOSE on Vitamin D.

I am also on a high dose of Vitamin D PRESCRIBED BY MY DOCTOR. I have Crohn's disease which can cause malabsorption problems and at one time I WAS scripted 100,000 IU WEEKLY which has since been reduced to 50,000 IU once every other week BY MY DOCTOR. I have routine blood tests done, not just for Vitamin D levels but also for a few other things that excessive Vitamin D can cause or affect.
I was thinking of taking a calcium supplement that has 800 mg of D along with my vitamin that has 400 mg, with a combined total of 1200 mg. Thank you for letting me know though, because I do know some vitamins can have a toxicity level.
Be careful taking a calcium supplement unless you really are low in that mineral. My calcium levels are a little high and my endo said to absolutely not take any extra, even in a multi. I wasn't, and don't.

Cheers,
xena
Thanks for that info, I will bear that in mind and not use too much. Due to lactose intolerance, I don't consume any milk products, which is why I take calcium. I don't take a real high dosage though.

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:27 pm
by jromano
avi123:

I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution for your specific situation. I'm assuming you've tried all sorts of chin straps, maybe taping, etc. and nothing has helped with the mouth leak. It's certainly true that one person's lifesaver can be the next person's dog toy.

A note about the Mojo Sizing Gauge: that gauge is produced by Sleepnet in order to provide guidance in determining sizing for their Mojo Full Face Mask. It is intended to help with sizing for that mask only - this information cannot be generalized to any other masks or manufacturers. As I'm sure you're aware, sizes can vary greatly between companies. Please check with your manufacturer's recommendations for sizing information.
Plus, it's a wicked bummer to end up with the wrong size mask...

Cheers,
Jess

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:37 pm
by avi123
Thanks Jess. Since the discussion turned into Vitamin D I have deleted my post about masks. But it also turned out that the Mojo gauge for FF mask was OK with sizing for my face. All my other masks by diff mfg are Medium as the Mojo gauge indicated.

Notice that the PO question was quite confusing. What Chin Restarined straps have to do with Quattro?

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:48 pm
by ResmedUser
Slinky wrote:Vitamin D actually isn't even a vitamin. Its a hormone. Or more correctly a precursor hormone. Read up on it.
I have read up on it. Yes I am aware it is a hormone or hormone precursor more than a vitamin. It is a fat soluble vitamin. All that being said, if you are deficient in the stuff to begin with (going by medically supervised blood checks), it is difficult to build up to toxic levels. All you have to do is have your doctor measure your D levels every couple months as you take the stuff and you will be fine. I have known several people IRL who have had D deficiency besides myself. I even had my own Mother get tested for it and hers came back low. The studies indicate that probably around 75% of the American population are vitamin D deficient.

Mikey

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:51 pm
by ResmedUser
CruzTerri wrote:My recent lab tests showed that I was deficient in Vitamin D and the doctor prescribe 2,000/day for me. That's what I'm taking now.
If my D levels came back low from formal bloodwork, knowing what I know now about it if any MD tried "fixing it" by a mere 2000 IU a day, Id be looking for a different doctor.

The standard for formal vitamin D deficiency is 50,000 to 100,000 IU a day using prescription, not OTC, vitamin D pills. There is a prescription pill called drisdol, its generic and is dirt cheap. Its potent stuff and GOOOOOOOOOOODDDD stuff.

Mikey

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:55 pm
by ResmedUser
avi123 wrote:
Notice that the PO question was quite confusing. What Chin Restarined straps have to do with Quattro?
I did not think it was confusing at all.

What many DMEs and sleep docs will do if a nasal mask patient has mouth leak is add a chin strap. I tried that and it was worthless. I have heard of so many others complain chin straps dont really work all that well. I was switched to a Quattro FFM and the mouth leak issue disappeared completely and I have not had a problem with mouth leak, mouth dryness, loss of therapy (from that problem) since.

Quattro FFM is way superior to the nasal mask plus chin strap combo.

Mikey

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:34 pm
by avi123
ResmedUser wrote:
avi123 wrote:

Quattro FFM is way superior to the nasal mask plus chin strap combo.

Mikey

Mikey, what about the FF ComfortGel instead of the Mirage Quattro?


https://www.cpap.com/productpage/2757

or

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... dgear.html

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:00 pm
by HoseCrusher
As long as we have a side discussion going on vitamin D, I thought I would add my results.

I started out at 17 ng/ml. My doctor prescribed 50000 IU D. I took 1 of those a day for 2 weeks. When my levels were measured again, they had risen to 19 ng/ml. Rather than go for another round of the 50000 IU capsules, I opted to pick up some D3 2000 IU. I believe the prescription is D2, which is not as easily converted in the body. That's why you need to take large amounts.

At any rate, 2 weeks later my levels were up to 50 ng/ml.

In my case, the 2000 IU D3 did a much better job than the 50000 IU prescription.

I believe toxic levels are when you get over 250 ng/ml, but there is some controversy over what a toxic amount actually is.

Anyone who supplements with vitamin D should also watch their calcium and magnesium levels. A sudden increase in D can result in symptoms of calcium and magnesium deficiency. I think that most people are low on D, but I am much more comfortable discussing adjustments to xPAP equipment than I am discussing how much vitamin D to take.

Get tested, find out what your levels are, and go from there.

There is some good information at http://www.vitamindcouncil.com .

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:07 pm
by Guest
avi123 wrote:
ResmedUser wrote:
avi123 wrote:

Quattro FFM is way superior to the nasal mask plus chin strap combo.

Mikey

Mikey, what about the FF ComfortGel instead of the Mirage Quattro?


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I dont want to use a non Resmed mask with a Resmed APAP. I see your point though. Maybe I will try one. Frankly I am skeptical, nothing has worked well for jaw drop better than the classic Resmed Mirage Quattro full face mask. IMO, the Quattro FFM is the best FFM on the market. I have tried the Fisher and Pykerl FFM and it was awful. Leaked like crazy, did not handle jaw drop worth a darn.

Mikey

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:12 pm
by ResMedUser
HoseCrusher wrote:
I believe toxic levels are when you get over 250 ng/ml, but there is some controversy over what a toxic amount actually is.
I have read the same thing. I read something that about the only people who get to those kinds of levels are professional, full time beach lifeguards. I have tried and tried and tried and did both the supplement plus being in the sun all the time thing for a whole summer and never reached toxic levels. I believe much of the "scare" is just that...a scare. Doctors are afraid, many are very very afraid to do anything. I call it the "sissy doctor syndrome." Its my own idea, based on my own experiences observing them for over a decade.

Its nearly impossible to OD on vitamin D.

Mikey

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:14 pm
by Guest
ResMedUser wrote:
HoseCrusher wrote:
I believe toxic levels are when you get over 250 ng/ml, but there is some controversy over what a toxic amount actually is.
I have read the same thing. I read something that about the only people who get to those kinds of levels are professional, full time beach lifeguards. I

Mikey
And those full time professional beach lifeguards tend to be among some of the healthiest, fittest people you will ever meet btw. When was the last time you saw a sick beach lifeguard?

Mikey

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:47 am
by NightMonkey
ResMedUser wrote:
Mikey

Mikey, I see you posting numerous times in several thread. How about registering?

Re: Why Resmed Quattro FF masks are superior to chin straps

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:18 am
by tonycog
Guest wrote:I dont want to use a non Resmed mask with a Resmed APAP.
Why not? I am not aware of any recommendation or evidence that indicates you must use a mask and machine built by the same manufacturer. Your same-maker theory may be keeping you from a mask that works.

Tony