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Breathe Jimbo wrote:LoQ, you are absolutely correct. I did make that statement. I had completely forgotten about it because I had moved on to suspecting, instead, that Calist may have been fired for making certain statements. OSA-induced brain damage, perhaps.

svg, as I said, I apologize.

Well I must say I have more respect for you for owning up to that without trying to weasel out of a clear statement, and I'm sure gvz will appreciate the retraction. Thank you, Breathe Jimbo.

gvz wrote: Imagine that happening to you.

Those five words say a lot.

Thanks, gvz.

gvz wrote:Thanks, LoQ.

Seems to me that one witch-hunt / burning at the stake isn't enough for the blood-thirsty people around here.

Go ahead and ban me too if my presence is undesirable.

I am sorry and did not mean for this to be a witch hunt by any means. I also apologize to gvz.

rosie

Johnny, I'll add my thanks as well. I'm pretty sure this is the first time in 2 years on this forum that I've allowed myself to get this riled up about a poster. I know it didn't make any of us feel very good.

Thanks explaining that to us. I did find him to be a bit abrasive.

Laura

Thank you! and I agree 100% with;

nanwilson wrote:Come on guys enough is enough....it's all over and done with, lets get back to our usual selves and concentrate on cpap. No more wondering why and pointing fingers, Johnny has done the deed and IT'S OVER, CALIST IS GONE!! We don't need to follow in his footsteps and keep ripping and biting at each other.
Tomorrow is another day free of calist, so let's make it a fun day. Take a deep breath everyone and be nice the problem has been solved.
Cheers
Nan

Sleep well everyone! john

I think we need a group hug now. Come on, bring it on in.

nanwilson wrote:Come on guys enough is enough....it's all over and done with, lets get back to our usual selves and concentrate on cpap. No more wondering why and pointing fingers, Johnny has done the deed and IT'S OVER, CALIST IS GONE!! We don't need to follow in his footsteps and keep ripping and biting at each other.
Tomorrow is another day free of calist, so let's make it a fun day. Take a deep breath everyone and be nice the problem has been solved.
Cheers
Nan

I think folks who have felt abused or assaulted (or whatever else that made this poster's intrusion here, feel so intense and negative)...our folks need time to kind of de-brief and resolve any misconstrued messages amongst themselves. That's healthy. So Nan, try not to be too impatient---or just do not continue to read the thread, if you're done with it.

Full disclosure....I couldn't read any more than a few lines of the first post from Calist. It was just trash not worth my time. But I need to point out that for all the posts here in response to Johnny's explanation about his reason for banning the guy....it's surprising that only one or two state recognition of the "crystal clear" reason he thoughtfully & reluctantly decided to ban the guy! It was not due to Calist's nasty attitude, his counter-productive or un-helpful or provocative and hostile responses.....but due solely to his mis-representing himself. I only mention this to deflect future plea's for Johnny to remove someone just because they are incredibly obnoxious. I think he is saying clearly, that is not his agenda.

plr66 wrote: ...it's surprising that only one or two state recognition of the "crystal clear" reason he thoughtfully & reluctantly decided to ban the guy! It was not due to Calist's nasty attitude, his counter-productive or un-helpful or provocative and hostile responses.....but due solely to his mis-representing himself. I only mention this to deflect future plea's for Johnny to remove someone just because they are incredibly obnoxious. I think he is saying clearly, that is not his agenda.

Most people tend to leave social functions when one or more guests become verbally abusive. I think that same unfortunate social pattern can apply to message boards and abusive trolls.

Also, I think there's a crucial difference between an obnoxious poster and a consistently abusive poster. Calist was clearly abusive.

plr, I'm glad you mentioned that and I fully understand Johnny's reasons for his rare decision. I think he probably agrees with your feelings that ignoring obnoxious posters until they disappear is absolutely the best way to handle it and that's usually my instinct as well, but there was something about this guy and his personal abusive attacks on some of our "own" that turned me into a Mama Grizzly. If anything I hope this experience has made us all the better for it as a tight knit group.

What don't kill you makes you stronger...but it also pisses you off! DoriC, you seem so sweet I can't picture you as a grizzly, but you have taken so many of us noob's under your wings that I can see your wonderful "motherly" instincts out here to protect any of us. Thank you very much! john

jlk wrote:What don't kill you makes you stronger...but it also pisses you off! DoriC, you seem so sweet I can't picture you as a grizzly, but you have taken so many of us noob's under your wings that I can see your wonderful "motherly" instincts out here to protect any of us. Thank you very much! john

She makes wonderful chicken soup too!!!!


Laura

plr66 wrote:I think folks who have felt abused or assaulted (or whatever else that made this poster's intrusion here, feel so intense and negative)...our folks need time to kind of de-brief and resolve any misconstrued messages amongst themselves. That's healthy. So Nan, try not to be too impatient---or just do not continue to read the thread, if you're done with it.

Full disclosure....I couldn't read any more than a few lines of the first post from Calist. It was just trash not worth my time. But I need to point out that for all the posts here in response to Johnny's explanation about his reason for banning the guy....it's surprising that only one or two state recognition of the "crystal clear" reason he thoughtfully & reluctantly decided to ban the guy! It was not due to Calist's nasty attitude, his counter-productive or un-helpful or provocative and hostile responses.....but due solely to his mis-representing himself. I only mention this to deflect future plea's for Johnny to remove someone just because they are incredibly obnoxious. I think he is saying clearly, that is not his agenda.

I really didn't read very much of the first few, lengthy posts, but I do remember my "WTF" moment. A comment was made, under the guise of his being a professional in this field, that I knew was not correct. I am no expert or professional, but there are certain things that are not opinion but fact or not. And one of his comments was totally inaccurate. That's what got me reading a little bit more because I was very surprised that a professional in the field would make a comment that was such a blatant inaccuracy.

I am a fully willing to take my knocks as I am the one that "engaged" him but it was done simply to point out that some of his comments were just not true. He didn't seem to like it and then the whole thing started about the ventilator. I'm sure people are tired of hearing about it, but that was the ONE thing that *I* could say, 100%, definitely without a doubt -- he was wrong about. And it seems that -SWS agreed by posting the link to prove it. I don't care that he was wrong, but for the fact that he was claiming to be a professional and was so obnoxious about it. People coming here needed to realize that some of his information was just inaccurate. This is not just obnoxious (obnoxious CAN be ignored) but was bordering on dangerous to any unsuspecting member that didn't know any better.

WHAT IF -- this is just a what if -- I wasn't as savvy as I am about my condition and equipment and opted to take Calist's rants about my ventilator seriously? What if I went to my DME and doctor and ranted and raved and accused THEM of lying to me? Can you just imagine the harm that could have been done to me, my treatment and my relationship with my medical team IF I had been stupid enough to listen to Calist -- as he INSISTED I should? I cringe at the very thought. Let's not forget that he did tell me in a post that he was medicine and that I needed to listen to HIM. Luckily, I've been around the block enough that I saw him for what he was.

And I know I was accused of taking this too seriously, but I had visions of some new person coming here, latching onto Calist and his rantings, and doing serious harm to themselves because they didn't know any better. And I was frightened for them.

I understand Johnny's "hands off" approach to this forum and 99.9% of the time, I agree with it. I do think a person claiming to be a professional, but spewing INACCURATE information under the claim of being a professional, is doing this forum and the people here a great disservice.

And I keep asking myself why he would choose to list a fake name (well, that one I can understand) but to list a fake place of employment that IS a real place? That makes no sense to me and that's where it really took a bad turn. All the stuff he was doing here -- giving out bad information, abusing and berating the kind people here -- that's bad enough, but to involve a professional, medical facility that has absolutely nothing to do with this? Why would somebody do that?

gvz -- I know you called him and talked to him and want to support him. As I said before, I personally have a hard time with that, but I do respect your right to feel and believe what you want. You never once helped him in his attacks or rants on or about me, which I thank you for and appreciate. For what it's worth, I never once had any harsh feelings about or towards you.

Yes, this will die down and the forum will move on. But a few of us were badly wounded in this situation and the recovery will take some time.

jlk wrote:What don't kill you makes you stronger...but it also pisses you off! DoriC, you seem so sweet I can't picture you as a grizzly, but you have taken so many of us noob's under your wings that I can see your wonderful "motherly" instincts out here to protect any of us. Thank you very much! john

I've also been known to put a few of my "unruly" kids in "time out" when their banter gets too "playful". They've quieted down a bit so I'll be watching you now John! Thanks for the kind words.

Wow, to think I missed all this. How could I have waded through blizzardboy's 93 page thread (or whatever it was), and have missed all this?!