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xxio wrote:I'm the guest who posted above dreamstalker.

I finally figured out my new laptop. It somehow doesn't log in properly. That is why a few of my post came out as a guest.

I guess there is a consensus on this board that only cpap/bipap works? It has worked for me for a year now. I was just wondering LEGITIMATELY, why sticking my tongue out when lying down somehow makes me breathe easier. Does that mean I'm a candidate for surgery?

Dreamstalker, what were you experiences with any other devices outside of Xpap. It seems you don't believe in them. I haven't tried anything else outside of bipap because I got lucky and somebody practically donated to me my bipap machine. I would love the insight.

I ask because I travel a lot, unexpectedly sometimes. I find it hard to travel with my machine. If I can find a short time substitute for the times I suddenly have to stay unexpectedly overnight somewhere it would be terrific.

Well, I honestly have not tried the other devices ... but I have experimented with moving my jaw forward and it does seem to enable my breathing. However, I noticed that I can only do this for about 5 or 10 minutes before I start to experience pain ... I could only imagine the pain after a whole night. I suspect the same may be true for pulling on the tongue all night.

My sleep specialist provided me with all of my options when I was diagnosed with severe OSA and he told me that surgery and other dental devices do sometimes work. He said that about 90% of the time however, those types of treatment are only temporary and that in his opinion, the cost/pain-to-benefit ratio is quite poor ... because most of the time they end up having to go back to PAP treatment anyway. He said PAP treatment is the "gold standard" when it comes to treating OSA.

I have also done a lot of research, not only on this forum, but the rest of the internet as well, and have concluded that PAP treatment not only works ... it is the most cost effective long-term treatment for my severe case of OSA.

- r

Thank you for the reply.
I agree, I don't think I can ever sleep well again without my bipap.
I was looking for a short term device that would be easy to bring along on those trips.
I don't think my bipap will ever be replaced by these quick cure devices.

Any suggesstions?

xxio,
I believe Snork1 tried the Aveo device for traveling - try searching for Aveo, and - possilbly Snork1 as author, and you'll read for yourself what his conclusions were.

O.

Ken,

Thank you for sharing your results with the AveoTSD.

I agree that a sleep study to check how it works would be a great idea.

If I am not mistaken, the AveoTSD is also approved in Canada.

About a month ago during a sleep awareness week, it was shown on some news shows around here.

Kenv wrote:HI I'm new here - I just wanted to tell you folks that I have been on a CPAP machine for over 3 years. Three weeks ago I started using the AveoTSD (tongue stablising device). This is a simple nylon device which holds the tongue from slipping back when you go to sleep. The tongue slipping back and blocking the airway is the most common reason for Sleep Apnea. I haven't used the CPAP machine since and I feel better than I did when using the machine. I doubt if I will ever use the CPAP again.
Try one!
Ken

That guest was me, sorry.

Hi, Gerry here. The reason the aveoTSD works so well for me is because it prevents my tongue from falling back and blocking my airway. If your Apnea is caused by your tongue blocking your airway then it makes sense that it would work. I will tell you though it took a while to get used to having this device on my tongue, but I use it every night. The only exception is when I have a cold and my nose is stuffed, I put on my CPAP/CFLEX-Face mask.

Gerry