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Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:06 am
by WearyOne
You can get plain Vitamin D3 OTC (make sure it's liquid or gel caps) and plain magnesium OTC. I have been taking larger-than-normal doses of magnesium for IBS for years, so I doubt I'll have a problem with not having enough magnesium. Did your doctor tell you to take extra calcium while you were taking Vitamin D? Mine didn't say anything one way or the other, so I never have. I don’t know that taking them together (calcium and magnesium) is as much of an absorption issue, but that taking too much calcium in relation to magnesium can cause constipation; too much magnesium in relation to calcium can cause the opposite reaction!
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:28 am
by sleepyred
Sounds like a good plan - D3 -(liquid or gels)
and magnesium - do you know what a normal dose might be?
Thank you so much!
WearyOne wrote:You can get plain Vitamin D3 OTC (make sure it's liquid or gel caps) and plain magnesium OTC. I have been taking larger-than-normal doses of magnesium for IBS for years, so I doubt I'll have a problem with not having enough magnesium. Did your doctor tell you to take extra calcium while you were taking Vitamin D? Mine didn't say anything one way or the other, so I never have. I don’t know that taking them together (calcium and magnesium) is as much of an absorption issue, but that taking too much calcium in relation to magnesium can cause constipation; too much magnesium in relation to calcium can cause the opposite reaction!
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:07 am
by Emilia
Magnesium is very difficult to absorb via supplements.... using transdermal magnesium oil is a great way to increase absorption. It is estimated that 80% of us are deficient in magnesium so adding the high doesage of vitamin D is exacerbating that factor. I take micellized Vitamin D3 mixed into my morning juice (1 drop = 1,000 IU) and I use magnesium oil a few times a week. My calcium supplements have additional vitamin D and mag in them, and I figure the small amounts that may be absorbed from those is just gravy.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:13 pm
by WearyOne
I honestly don't remember what the recommended dose of magnesium is. I take between 500 to 750 mg at night. I know at least some of it is being absorbed because it does what I take it for regarding IBS. I think I've read that it's not recommended to go higher than 1,000 mg daily, but I could be wrong on that.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:38 pm
by roster
Emilia wrote: I use magnesium oil a few times a week.
Emilia, Will you tell us how you apply it? I have heard of people throwing several pounds of flakes in a hot bath.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:10 pm
by Emilia
This is an excellent site for mag oil:
http://www.transdermalmagnesium.net/magnesium.htm#mg
I have it in a spray bottle and use it full strength on my arms and legs. A foot bath with 2 oz. of mag oil and enough water to just cover the instep of the foot for 30 mins will give you a good dose. Approximately 8 full sprays is equal to 100 mg. of mag. Generally speaking, if one was getting too much, it would result in a case of diarrhea. Some folks cannot take it full strength on their skin due to sensitivity, but diluting it 1:1 with distilled water makes it tolerable. You would just need to double the number of sprays....probably spreading them out throughout the day or week.
Magnesium is important for over 300 functions within the body so it stands to reason that a deficiency can lead to problems or health issues.
I first came across this rather new form of mag while researching fibromyalgia and found a few articles linking it to magnesium deficiency along with malic acid. This made sense since both are necessary in helping muscles function and produce energy. I have noticed a lessening of the pain associated with the points on the body with fibro. My inner elbows were super sore and sensitive and now are fine. It is my hope that once I get my O2 into a normal range while sleeping w/cpap, I will see even more improvement.
There are many sites that sell this product, but some are incredibly expensive. I found that the Swanson Mag Oil available on Amazon is one of the best buys. The link I gave at the top of this post also sells it a bit more reasonably that some of the other brands out there.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:22 pm
by M.D.Hosehead
Does anyone know whether you can absorb magnesium from epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) externally? I mean in a bath or a wet hotpak.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:22 pm
by roster
Thanks E. Looks like 1 kg of flakes for $15 + S&H from Amazon is the best deal. It is a salt, so I assume it dissolves easily.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:32 pm
by Emilia
This type of mag is Magnesium Chloride not sulfate. I saw some discussion threads on various sites about using Epsom Salts and they said it wasn't as effective as using the Mag Chloride.
The flakes are ok as long as they are the right grade. Some are more industrial grade and you really want food grade flakes. I read that Japanese Natto flakes are the perfect type to use. For myself, just buying the oil seemed a lot easier
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:39 pm
by sleepyred
Thanks for sharing!
Emilia wrote:This is an excellent site for mag oil:
http://www.transdermalmagnesium.net/magnesium.htm#mg
I have it in a spray bottle and use it full strength on my arms and legs. A foot bath with 2 oz. of mag oil and enough water to just cover the instep of the foot for 30 mins will give you a good dose. Approximately 8 full sprays is equal to 100 mg. of mag. Generally speaking, if one was getting too much, it would result in a case of diarrhea. Some folks cannot take it full strength on their skin due to sensitivity, but diluting it 1:1 with distilled water makes it tolerable. You would just need to double the number of sprays....probably spreading them out throughout the day or week.
Magnesium is important for over 300 functions within the body so it stands to reason that a deficiency can lead to problems or health issues.
I first came across this rather new form of mag while researching fibromyalgia and found a few articles linking it to magnesium deficiency along with malic acid. This made sense since both are necessary in helping muscles function and produce energy. I have noticed a lessening of the pain associated with the points on the body with fibro. My inner elbows were super sore and sensitive and now are fine. It is my hope that once I get my O2 into a normal range while sleeping w/cpap, I will see even more improvement.
There are many sites that sell this product, but some are incredibly expensive. I found that the Swanson Mag Oil available on Amazon is one of the best buys. The link I gave at the top of this post also sells it a bit more reasonably that some of the other brands out there.
Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:04 am
by hames
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Re: OT: Inexpensive Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:27 pm
by WearyOne
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Re: OT: Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:09 am
by WearyOne
Well, got the results back. And although higher than usual, it's still only 21.9. That's after about a week on 2,000 IU Vit D3 (and overnight fasting for the test) but I have no idea how long it takes for supplementation to start making a difference (I was thinking a few months). Guess I'll bump it up to 4,000 now that I know I'm definitely low, then check again in a few months.
Re: OT: Vitamin D Testing
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:37 am
by Emilia
You fasted for your test? I just had my test done and fasting was not required. Hmmmmm.......