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[quote]UFO 13 actually recommends using sticky back velcro and stapling it to the strap for extra security, but the ends of the staples are going to dig into SOMETHING--either your head or your bed linens.
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Just so I understand it correctly, you have the velcro (hook side) pressed against your head/hair on the inside of your backstrap to keep the headgear from sliding around when your move your head?

You've got it.

greg-g wrote:This set-up works really well for me.
The mask is a Swift FX, I have Velcro on the rear band to stop it slipping. The front band is a sweat band that's been
Velcroed to the rear band, and the hose again uses Velcro to attach to a Velcro patch on the front.
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Time for Bret at pur-sleep to make a commercial product for purchase. Good job Greg!

Thanks for your positive comments about my fishing rod.
There is an added benefit of Velcroing the hose to the head band with the Swift FX in that it allows you to set the angle of the pillows by adjusting the size of the hose loop above your nose. For the last two nights I've had zero, and I mean zero leaks even though I'm an active sleeper and spend a lot of time on my front and sides.
I really hope someone would commercialise both the hose management and head gear as both designs could be tidied up a bit.

greg-g wrote:Thanks for your positive comments about my fishing rod.
There is an added benefit of Velcroing the hose to the head band with the Swift FX in that it allows you to set the angle of the pillows by adjusting the size of the hose loop above your nose. For the last two nights I've had zero, and I mean zero leaks even though I'm an active sleeper and spend a lot of time on my front and sides.
I really hope someone would commercialise both the hose management and head gear as both designs could be tidied up a bit.

http://Pur-sleep.com is working on a pap cap for the Fx. Visit their site, find their email address, and give Bret a heads up with your design....maybe a win-win for both of you!

OT but their cozyhose boss is excellent piece of hardware. Simple, portable and not expensive. A+++

Hi Greg,

greg-g wrote:
This set-up works really well for me.
The mask is a Swift FX, I have Velcro on the rear band to stop it slipping. The front band is a sweat band that's been
Velcroed to the rear band, and the hose again uses Velcro to attach to a Velcro patch on the front.
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If you don't mind, please post a picture of your headgear. I really like the front band velcroed tothe rear band. It's a great idea! And did you sew the velcro patch on the front?

Thanks!!

Looks like you caught a big one there with the fishing pole. GREAT idea by the way. I'd use my fishing rod but they all smell like fish. And they're those $300 carbon jobbies for fishing for sneaker biters like Walleye. Gotta find one of the kids' old fishing rods.

Mind, I have the hose management system that slides under the mattress that I generally use for travelling. For at home I have a headboard that is a bookshelf, put a big Atlas on the headboard and clipped a hose management velcro loop to it and that keeps my hose supported and centred. Will be even better with the slimline S9 series hose I think. As far as attaching the hose from the nosebag to my headgear I think I'm going to just try a velcro computer cable tie or two.

My issue with nosebags is that I tend to smoosh my nose into the pillow while laying on my side. My other issue is mouth breathing sporadically so I'm going to go with a PAPCAP thingy and may punch a couple of grommets into the top for my cable tie to go through.

Where there is a will there is a way; necessity is the mother of invention. Feet smell when you don't wear socks. All famous sayings and true.

Good ideas, everyone!

greg-g, your fishing rod won you a Lab Rat Award... two awards, in fact -- one for the fishing rod hose hanger and another for the Swift FX fix to direct the connector hose upward:





Double congratulations, Greg!

LINKS to LAB RAT AWARD Winners
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greg-g wrote:Thanks for your positive comments about my fishing rod.
There is an added benefit of Velcroing the hose to the head band with the Swift FX in that it allows you to set the angle of the pillows by adjusting the size of the hose loop above your nose. For the last two nights I've had zero, and I mean zero leaks even though I'm an active sleeper and spend a lot of time on my front and sides.
I really hope someone would commercialise both the hose management and head gear as both designs could be tidied up a bit.

Hey Greg-g I was wondering what that thing at the top of the rod is that has a slight curve to it??? Is it a pcp pipe thing??? I'll have to rig up some thing for when I get my pillows next month. I think the fly rod idea is great as it is flexible and will move when you do and shouldn't pull on the mask. That is what I'm sort of worried about after reading every thing about the pillows and I found that a lot of people are saying how the hose pulls on the pillows. Can't stand the regular mask on in this hot weather, but do force myself to leave it on no matter what. Have a great day and thanks for the great ideas. Huggies, Fay

Its a piece of gray PVC electrical conduit (also know as NM or non-metallic conduit) that is sold pre-bent to various angles. The short gray pieces are couplers. Greg says he used 1" conduit and split it lengthwise. It has to be split because the rubber connectors won't fit through, although the hose will. (I know because I stood in the aisle of Home Despot and tried.)

dtsm wrote:

greg-g wrote:This set-up works really well for me.
The mask is a Swift FX, I have Velcro on the rear band to stop it slipping. The front band is a sweat band that's been
Velcroed to the rear band, and the hose again uses Velcro to attach to a Velcro patch on the front.
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Time for Bret at pur-sleep to make a commercial product for purchase. Good job Greg!

Pur-Sleep already has one. It's called the CozyHose Boss. I have this unit and really like it. I've only used it for a couple of months, so I'm not sure how durable it will be, but so far, it works like a champ. It's small too; good for travel.

http://www.pur-sleep.com/products/produ ... ategory=13

Attached is a photo of my head gear for the FX.
The Velcro on the rear is normal Velcro to hold the band in place.
The Velcro holding the head band is a low lint (fine) Velcro hook that attaches to the fine loop Velcro that's on the outside of the standard rear band.
The black Velcro on the front is an industrial Velcro used in boat cushions, but standard Velcro is probably strong enough.



Fishing Rod
The plastic tube used to hold the hose are 1 inch PVC conduit fittings. The curved section is a 1 inch elbow, it has a small PVC block with a 1/16 inch hole glued on top. All fittings have been split lengthways.

The fishing rod top section is actually carbon fibre that I was given as it wasn't suitable for its normal use. These are normally expensive to purchase. It's 4 ft long and hence isn't suitable for travel.
I'm going to investigate using carbon fibre tubing instead starting with a thick section at the bottom and grading up to a fine tip. This material is reasonably cheap and available in hobby shops. I hope to keep all sections under 18 inches so it will be suitable for travel.

Have fun, and thanks for your positive comments.
I've only had my APAP for three weeks and this forum has been an incredible help.
I'll post my story sometime, it's interesting as I didn't suffer from daytime tiredness, and don't excessively snore. My blood pressure has dropped from 140 to 120 in two weeks.

Greg, Thank you for sharing.

Hey those are cool!

I'm newish here, and very impressed by all the creativity!