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neverbetter wrote:Let's say your electric bill is 300 a month. All of a sudden, it's 600 a month because you see that your neighbor has run an extention cord, wait, the government has run an extension cord from your electric box to your neighbors box who doesn't work and pay for electric. You see, he wants to be warm, too. So now I'm working 2 jobs to pay for my families electric and the neighbor as well. Heck, If I quit my job, the government will run an extension cord from my warm neighbor down the street, the Doctor who's working, to my house. I might just quit my jobs and suck off his electric teet for a wile. What? The Doctor quit? (Gee, that's a surprise) He needs a goverment extension cord now , too.

Oh com'on man.

I mean geez, all you have to do is plug into your local church for some faith-based warmth ... the politically right solution.

If it is a green solution you want ... the sun sends 386 quadrillion megawatts to the earth every second, that should keep you toasty.

Or a patient solution is to wait for a warming near you ...

I can see from the numerous posts that we have members on both sides of the fence, with conflicting opinions. While I consider myself to be "against" this intrusion into yet another facet of my life by government, I DO see validity in some of both sides' arguments and points.

Working as a paramedic, I see a lot of folks taken to the ER (where healthcare is the absolute most expensive) because they know that whether they have insurance or not (or a job/resources to pay with), they have to be seen at some point (even if it means waiting for hours) by a Doctor. Most of these folks have: something non-emergent wrong with them (that a General Practitioner could easily see them for), or many times, nothing at all really wrong with them that requires medical attention (at least from my perspective, or that of many folks who grew up with a Mom/Dad who didn't take you to the Dr. every time you scratched your knee or had 2 degrees of fever). While I agree something needs to change and things need to improve, I have extreme doubts about whether that needs to be government taking it over and making what I already pay for my healthcare cost more. While I agree there are many people who truly do need assistance, I see most folks on government assistance (that I encounter) have more and more children out-of-wedlock for increased benefits from the government, drive vehicles nicer than I can afford to provide my wife and two children with, buy more groceries with their food stamps than my wife can buy with our food budget, etc. As I see it (and as simple arithmetic shows), if the "payers" who do work (I know some folks CAN'T and I am not talking about them) and pay their own way (along with the way of others) can only afford to have two kids (using me and my wife as an example), while the "users" (or better put, "abusers") can afford (and get rewarded for) 4 or 5 kids .... who are more than likely going to get the impression to do what their parents did ... how long can that sustain itself before falling apart and going broke? I am not against helping the "less fortunate" I promise, and I count myself blessed to not be. But as a person working two jobs (for a combined average of 89 hrs/wk), I am sick and tired of seeing the "less MOTIVATED" get everything that I work hard for given to them.

Something has to change. I don't "think" this is it. I hope I'm wrong since it's already a "done deal."

Tracy