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Re: S9 AHI accuracy?

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:45 pm
by rested gal
KatieW wrote:Ozij, what you say sounds reasonable to me.
To me, also.

Re: S9 AHI accuracy?

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:31 pm
by DreamDiver
dsm wrote:DSM: I think some of us 'believe' there is a difference
I want to believe. The truth is out there.
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Re: S9 AHI accuracy?

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:44 pm
by ozij
dsm wrote:
ozij wrote:
<snip>

dsm, do you agree that in its present s9 manual Resmed is hinting, ever so subtly and politely, that the older, A10 algorithm was unintelligent, less than brilliant, and delivered inaccurate and less effective therapy?

DSM: No! (? where did you find that ? - I went right through the S9 clin manual & found nothing that fits your description ?)
It's in the product guide, not the clinical manual. I didn't say clinical manual.
Sorry, I forgot to paste the link, and have now added it on edit. Here it is again:
http://www.resmed.com/int/assets/docume ... ac_eng.pdf

Re: S9 AHI accuracy?

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:02 pm
by dsm
ozij wrote:
dsm wrote:
ozij wrote:
<snip>

dsm, do you agree that in its present s9 manual Resmed is hinting, ever so subtly and politely, that the older, A10 algorithm was unintelligent, less than brilliant, and delivered inaccurate and less effective therapy?

DSM: No! (? where did you find that ? - I went right through the S9 clin manual & found nothing that fits your description ?)
It's in the product guide, not the clinical manual. I didn't say clinical manual.
Sorry, I forgot to paste the link, and have now added it on edit. Here it is again:
http://www.resmed.com/int/assets/docume ... ac_eng.pdf
Ozij,
This is all I could find & it barely matches your words
other than that you have deduced what you wanted ?

DSM

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The newly enhanced, intelligent algorithm
built into ResMed’s sleep therapy system
delivers more effective, accurate therapy to
maintain your comfort.
We call it AutoSet, you’ll call it brilliant.
This special algorithm maintains the ideal air
pressure – automatically adjusting through
the night to deliver the optimal therapy. Your
sleep is more comfortable than ever.
With ResMed’s AutoSet™ range, you enjoy
peace of mind because you know the right
therapy is always delivered.
So you’ll wake up to life - day after day - year
after year.



ResMed’s new sleep therapy system can now
differentiate between obstructive sleep apneas
(where the airway is blocked) and central sleep
apneas (airway is open but there is no airflow)*.
Each condition requires its own specific therapy.
Once detected, the enhanced AutoSet ensures
the appropriate treatment is automatically delivered.
It’s another important way ResMed gives you more

Re: S9 AHI accuracy?

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:03 am
by ozij
Looks like you missed my point, at the same time you snipped part of the text, dsm. I was making a point about how interpretations based on "subtlety and politeness" can be carried a bit too far.

To make my positon clear:
I was not expressing my opinion of the A10 aglorithm, nor do I think that was the opinion expressed "subtly and politely" by ResMed.
ozij wrote:Edit: http://www.resmed.com/int/assets/docume ... ac_eng.pdf
In its S9 manual Resmed wrote:The newly enhanced, intelligent algorithm built into ResMed’s sleep therapy system delivers more effective, accurate therapy to maintain your comfort. We call it AutoSet, you’ll call it brilliant. This special algorithm maintains the ideal air pressure – automatically adjusting through the night to deliver the optimal therapy. Your sleep is more comfortable than ever.
With ResMed’s AutoSet™ range, you enjoy peace of mind because you know the right therapy is always delivered. So you’ll wake up to life - day after day - year
after year.
dsm, do you agree that in its present s9 manual Resmed is hinting, ever so subtly and politely, that the older, A10 algorithm was unintelligent, less than brilliant, and delivered inaccurate and less effective therapy?

If not, do you agree that one can carry this issue of "subtlety and politeness" a bit too far?