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Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:14 pm
by bap40
No pictures that I found either. Was wondering why anyone would be anxious to try a unseen item.

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:24 pm
by jules
Available in 2 -3 mm and 3-4 mm in tan or white. Sample requests requires registration through "How To Order" tab. This product will be available in a SAMPLE PACK for a shipping fee. Registrant must be a business, hospital, or distributor to qualify as a recipient of the merchandise.

Sample Pack includes: (2)Med-lg. 3-4 mm, white. (2) small, 3-4 mm, white. (2)Med-lg. 3-4 mm tan. (2)small, 3-4 mm, tan (1) Med-lg. 2-3 mm, white/tan. (1)small 2-3 mm white/tan.

you have to not use the link he provided - take the store out of it and find NozGuard on the left ---

again a good salesman would have provided a good link -

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:09 pm
by Muffy
Strapparatus wrote:Besides the Focus Journal you can contact another publication, "SleepMatters" (American Association of Sleep Medicine) and see this advertisement concerning the product, which, has improved through communication
with cpaptalk.com forum members.
The "American Association of Sleep Medicine"? Who's that?

Muffy

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:24 pm
by Muffy
Also, did you refer to the forum members as "CPAP Yahoos" or "CPAP Wahoos"? There seems to be some question there.

TIA

Muffy

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:32 pm
by Paul56
I wonder if those things are removable once applied.

Well, if not they could be an identification marking for other cpap'ers and lead to new conversation opportunities at the mall.

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:22 am
by Strapparatus
There was a picture and they are just round circles of what looks like moleskin as Bab's pointed out. There is no list of materials or the adhesive used in the product. They looked on the surface like those nose pads you stick on eyeglasses to keep them from causing red spots on the side of your nose except these were round. How this is an improvement from using Mack's silicon earplugs is beyond me.

This is called Trade Secret. In addition, be aware, that I will enforce copyright protection regarding the use of images from my website.
A list is available of the materials, you may request this on the website by registering and then sending an email requesting a materials data sheet.
Some people have no respect for the law!

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:35 am
by ChrisC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Go ahead, armchair lawyer. "Enforce copyright protection" for images covered 100% under fair use.

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:46 am
by jules
And a post of mine has been removed by whom?

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:56 am
by Strapparatus
What is this place "Flamewars"?

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:04 am
by jules
Strapparatus wrote:What is this place "Flamewars"?

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:08 am
by Strapparatus
ChrisC wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Go ahead, armchair lawyer. "Enforce copyright protection" for images covered 100% under fair use.
That only applies to noncommercial images. This happens to be a copyrighted image of a trademarked product that is being manufactured. *(There is a night/day difference between

commercial and noncommercial use. You better have permission! ) Carbonman has not requested permission to profile my copyrighted product on this website which is a violation

of copyright law. The image belongs to the owner, not carbonman. Icons like those above are noncommercialized "fair use". *(HOME, NEW USERS, CPAP WIKI). Good luck in court

proving to the judge the use of someone else's livelihood through adding detrimental comments after posting a product image without permission from the owner of a copyrighted website.

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:19 am
by Strapparatus
As anyone who has a sense of fair use will note, the "Professional" icon was placed on the "avatar". This is a non-commercial use of an image, I don't need permission from the owner to use this icon here since it is
an icon that is distributed on this website.
A reasonable consideration would be if Mr. Carbonman copied the image and parodied this with a wart growing out of the nozguard, as this would be creative and entertaining. But, he did nothing to the image
except post the image on the website without first asking permission. I'll let the peers of the forum judge these statements and decide on their own accord as jury.

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:35 am
by Muffy
Strapparatus wrote:
ChrisC wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Go ahead, armchair lawyer. "Enforce copyright protection" for images covered 100% under fair use.
That only applies to noncommercial images. This happens to be a copyrighted image of a trademarked product that is being manufactured. *(There is a night/day difference between

commercial and noncommercial use. You better have permission! ) Carbonman has not requested permission to profile my copyrighted product on this website which is a violation

of copyright law. The image belongs to the owner, not carbonman. Icons like those above are noncommercialized "fair use". *(HOME, NEW USERS, CPAP WIKI). Good luck in court

proving to the judge the use of someone else's livelihood through adding detrimental comments after posting a product image without permission from the owner of a copyrighted website.
OK SFB, then you shouldn't be posting ResMed or F&P images (stolen from the cpap.com site, no less) now, should you?

viewtopic/p441832/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3 ... 79#p334479

Muffy

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:43 am
by cotech50
You know I think you pretty much have S@&T in your nest so to speak.

Re: product offering (trial)

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:55 am
by DreamStalker
Strapparatus wrote:What is this place "Flamewars"?

ImageImage

Looks more like you have a copyright infringement of the Red Cross logo to deal with ... maybe you do need a lawyer.

btw - If starts to get too hot ... just say uncle.