Page 2 of 3
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:13 am
by cflame1
I'm actually pre diabetic... insulin resistant, another option that's not on there.
Basically means that my A1C's are high, but not high enough for the official diabetic diagnosis. I've got another diagnosis that when it's treated, puts me on diabetic meds (metformin).
Plus diabetes runs in my family (dad was insulin dependent before he died).
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:12 am
by drmkII
False. If you want a "celebrity" example look at the doctor Oz website. Rocco was a typical american rancher with terrible type II diabetes and coronary artery disease. He reversed this in 30 days with diet alone by becoming vegan. He has cured his diabetes (type II) Yes everything you eat will increase your blood glucose but a plant based or vegan diet does so in a controlled manner, and provides substantially lower increases than most of us who eat a terrible western diet.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:31 am
by BlackSpinner
drmkII wrote:False. If you want a "celebrity" example look at the doctor Oz website. Rocco was a typical american rancher with terrible type II diabetes and coronary artery disease. He reversed this in 30 days with diet alone by becoming vegan. He has cured his diabetes (type II) Yes everything you eat will increase your blood glucose but a plant based or vegan diet does so in a controlled manner, and provides substantially lower increases than most of us who eat a terrible western diet.
False - my mother has had diabetes for 40 years and kept herself to a strict diet. It was under control for many years but now requires insulin. Your one example rancher isn't cured, he will relapse as he ages. He is in the bulls eye, just like I am because of genes and gestational diabetes.
It is actually harder to control diabetes with a vegan diet. Many plant food such as corn have a much higher sugar content.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:02 am
by Arizona-Willie
Hmmm, perhaps if we ate nothing but steak and lobster and got vitamins from pills we could cure our diabetes.
Yeah ... that sounds like a plan to me.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:46 am
by BlackSpinner
Arizona-Willie wrote:Hmmm, perhaps if we ate nothing but steak and lobster and got vitamins from pills we could cure our diabetes.
Yeah ... that sounds like a plan to me.
The problem is the side dishes and the butter to dip the lobster in.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:37 am
by Wulfman
drmkII wrote:False. If you want a "celebrity" example look at the doctor Oz website. Rocco was a typical american rancher with terrible type II diabetes and coronary artery disease. He reversed this in 30 days with diet alone by becoming vegan. He has cured his diabetes (type II) Yes everything you eat will increase your blood glucose but a plant based or vegan diet does so in a controlled manner, and provides substantially lower increases than most of us who eat a terrible western diet.
I happened to see that show. That guy's A1C number was still 7.6. He may have gotten his blood sugar lower, but he's a long way from "normal". "Curing" diabetes would mean that a person could then eat a huge load of carbs and their blood sugar would not rise above 140 at two hours and then fall back below 99 in a short time.
Anybody that has "Dr." as a title in their name, I tend to take what they say with a grain of salt.
Sure, there are come common sense things in what he talks about, but, like I said, everybody's different and what works for one, may not work for the next person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
You need to learn more about Diabetes.
http://www.bloodsugar101.com/
Den
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:01 am
by sagesteve
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:38 am
by DreamStalker
Exactly one year ago I was still borderline diabetic. I completely reversed it by diet alone ... I know everyone is different, but for me, carbs are the work of the devil.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:49 am
by Judy R
Let's don't forget, that family history/heredity plays a big role in this too, my entire family, well just about, has type 2 diabetes. We are all on oral meds. and work really hard with diet and exercise. But, there's never going to be a cure so to speak. JMO.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:20 pm
by fidelfs
Hi,
I was a pre diabetic type II. There is a difference between I and II, Type II is reversible but Type I is controllable.
I discovered my family doctor has a better knowledge of my body than the specialist I saw for my pre diabetic. The specialist put me in some drug that made feel terrible. I changed my diet and exercise more and the prediabetic disappear.
I fired her so no more specialist. My family doctor send me for a full blood test and we found out I have low testosterone. This conditions cause glucose intolerance, so my problem was not diabetes, since I am in control of my testosterone no more problem with sugar.
And do you know Sleep apnea causes the testosterone to be low? so treat the sleep apnea and check your blood test maybe type II diabetes is a symptom for something else, just it was in my case.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:23 pm
by DreamStalker
EVERYBODY has the genetic predisposition to become diabetic. Some of us are more sensitive to carbs than others and even then, that cahnges though time and as we age are sensitivity increases. Hormonal disregulation eventually leads to metabolic syndrome which includes obesisty, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, inflamation, insulin resitance, and diabetes.

Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:59 pm
by Eleena
I have been diabetic since I was 7 years old(37 now). I took insulin once a day until I got pregnant at age 20. About 4 months into my pregnancy, they had me taking insulin twice a day and told me that I would probably never go back to taking it just once a day. They were right. I still take it twice a day and watch my carbs very closely. My last A1C was 6.7 about 2 years ago. Just had it done yesterday so will find out in a couple of days where its at now. A cure would be great but not holding my breath. My blood sugars have definately been easier to control since my apap.
Missy
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:05 pm
by DreamStalker
Eleena wrote:I have been diabetic since I was 7 years old(37 now). I took insulin once a day until I got pregnant at age 20. About 4 months into my pregnancy, they had me taking insulin twice a day and told me that I would probably never go back to taking it just once a day. They were right. I still take it twice a day and watch my carbs very closely. My last A1C was 6.7 about 2 years ago. Just had it done yesterday so will find out in a couple of days where its at now. A cure would be great but not holding my breath. My blood sugars have definately been easier to control since my apap.
Missy
I hope you meant to say "eliminate" carbs ... not "watch" them.
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:33 pm
by Eleena
I have not eliminated carbs completely but I am very careful as to when and how much I eat. I check my blood sugar many times a day.
Missy
Re: How many have Diabetes
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:50 pm
by DreamStalker
Eleena wrote:I have not eliminated carbs completely but I am very careful as to when and how much I eat. I check my blood sugar many times a day.
Missy
Have you heard of the law of small numbers?
http://www.diabetes-book.com/book/chapter7.shtml