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SleepingUgly wrote:Gary,

I have a deviated septum and would like to try the "experiment". What is the experiment supposed to determine? (e.g., whether septoplasty would "cure" your sleep disordered breathing?). Can you please give me very specific details on how to do it? (e.g., # of sprays per nostril, how close to bedtime, use with CPAP or without, etc.) What outcome are you looking at (e.g., how tired you feel the next day, what your AHI is on the machine for that night, or what)?

Thanks!

Before suggesting a course of action for my septum and turbinates, he came up with a small experiment for me to try. He told me to try Afrin for 3 nights, try the breath rite nasal strips for 3 nights, and possibly try both for 3 nights. He also told me to google "nozovent" and look into trying that as well. And he told me to take notes, to see what works the best. Based on my results, he would recommend the type of treatment to pursue.

SU, first of all, I don't expect to find a "cure" for my sleep disorder. The objective is to make it easier to breathe, which would increase the efficiency of my CPAP treatment. As to what to do, he directed me to try Afrin for 3 nights, nasal strips 3 nights, and possibly both for 3 nights for a 9 night trial. Now I wasn't as inqusitive as you are, so I didn't ask ahead of time what the results would tell him. I can report back here after I discuss my results with Dr. Park, and share his insight. I plan on calling his office early this week. But he wasn't specific with me as to # of sprays or exactly how close to bedtime. It is for use with CPAP. He did mention I should stick with the mask that works best for me. (I usually am in the habit of switching masks every few days.). And I should limit snacks before bedtime. But he didn't give me very specific instructions on the Afrin or nasal strips. Outcome was which gave me better relief - He is interested in more in how I feel than my numbers. Interestingly, my numbers shot up a bit with the Afrin for 2 nights, so I stopped after 2 - gives me a dried out feeling - so I even upped the humidity from 1.5 to 2 on my 2nd night of Afrin, but I still got an uncomfortable dryness with it. I've gotten immediate relief with the nasal strips - Numbers were good as usual, but leakage was down -- think I might be less restless with the strips and so maybe moving around less in sleep and thus my leakage is lower. With the strips I did feel better somewhat.

He also told me to google "Nozovent" and look into that. This is something that fits into the nose, and I guess is an alternative to nasal strips.

SleepingUgly wrote:The PR System One REMStar Auto claims to detect, but not treat, RERAs. Not sure what it uses as a proxy for a true RERArousal, as obviously it can't tell if there has been an arousal.

He commented on how new this whole field is. He did mention there is a new machine out that does measure these events, but didn't mention the model.

Yeah, I looked it up as well. At least by detecting, I guess pressure can be tweaked to attempt to reduce the RERAs. But since I imagine this technology is new, not sure how accurate it is. Anyone have any experience with RERA detection?

How do we listen to this? I've never done this type of thing before.

sypark wrote:On January 5th, 2010, at 8PM, join me for another of my “Ask Dr. Park” teleseminars where I answer your most important questions about how to better manage and take control of your sleep apnea.

For this teleseminar, I’ll reveal what I’ve discovered over many years in practice as THE : “7 Habits of Highly Successful Sleep Apnea Patients.”

Here are the details:

What: Ask Dr. Park teleseminar on ”7 Habits of Highly Successful Sleep Apnea Patients.”

When: Tuesday, January 5th, 2010, 8PM Eastern / 5PM Pacific

Where: From the comfort of your own home, via telephone

Cost: Free for the live call.

Click here to register: http://doctorstevenpark.com/ask-dr-park

SleepingUgly wrote:How do we listen to this? I've never done this type of thing before.

You make a free phone call from your own phone... to a phone number you'll be given if you register (registration is free) for the free teleseminar call.

You can listen to it on your own phone, if you make the call on the listed date/time:

"When: Tuesday, January 5th, 2010, 8PM Eastern / 5PM Pacific"

"Where: From the comfort of your own home, via telephone"

"Cost: Free for the live call."

Click here to register: http://doctorstevenpark.com/ask-dr-park

rested gal wrote:

SleepingUgly wrote:How do we listen to this? I've never done this type of thing before.

You make a free phone call from your own phone... to a phone number you'll be given if you register (registration is free) for the free teleseminar call.

You can listen to it on your own phone, if you make the call on the listed date/time:

"When: Tuesday, January 5th, 2010, 8PM Eastern / 5PM Pacific"

"Where: From the comfort of your own home, via telephone"

"Cost: Free for the live call."

Click here to register: http://doctorstevenpark.com/ask-dr-park

The notice is a little misleading. By "free," I think Dr. Park means there's no fee involved. The call-in number is not toll-free.

I registered for this teleseminar and received an email with the phone number, but I can't participate. Dr. Park discourages call-ins via cellphone, and my home phone doesn't have a long-distance plan on it. So I'm SOL.

BleepingBeauty wrote:

rested gal wrote:

SleepingUgly wrote:How do we listen to this? I've never done this type of thing before.

You make a free phone call from your own phone... to a phone number you'll be given if you register (registration is free) for the free teleseminar call.

You can listen to it on your own phone, if you make the call on the listed date/time:

"When: Tuesday, January 5th, 2010, 8PM Eastern / 5PM Pacific"

"Where: From the comfort of your own home, via telephone"

"Cost: Free for the live call."

Click here to register: http://doctorstevenpark.com/ask-dr-park

The notice is a little misleading. By "free," I think Dr. Park means there's no fee involved. The call-in number is not toll-free.

I registered for this teleseminar and received an email with the phone number, but I can't participate. Dr. Park discourages call-ins via cellphone, and my home phone doesn't have a long-distance plan on it. So I'm SOL.

As I recall I think there is a web link so even if you're out of area you should be able to hear it on the internet. I've done this in the past with a few of his calls - just listened on the internet. Can't call in a question but can listen (while you surf cpaptalk.com).

GaryG wrote:As I recall I think there is a web link so even if you're out of area you should be able to hear it on the internet. I've done this in the past with a few of his calls - just listened on the internet. Can't call in a question but can listen (while you surf cpaptalk.com).

Now for tomorrow's call I don't see a web link. Darn.

BleepingBeauty wrote:The notice is a little misleading. By "free," I think Dr. Park means there's no fee involved. The call-in number is not toll-free.

Ahhhhhhhhhh! Thanks so much for that clarification, BB!

When I received the phone number after registering, I wondered about the area code not being what I usually associate with toll-free numbers, but thought, "Well, I guess toll free numbers use more area codes than I'm used to seeing."

I'll skip making the call, then. Will just do what Gary mentioned, if Dr. Park puts up a link to it after the teleseminar is over:

GaryG wrote:As I recall I think there is a web link so even if you're out of area you should be able to hear it on the internet. I've done this in the past with a few of his calls - just listened on the internet. Can't call in a question but can listen (while you surf cpaptalk.com).

GaryG wrote:Now for tomorrow's call I don't see a web link. Darn.

I don't know if Dr park is still going to use the web setup. I registered for a few of them and the web setup had a lot of bugs. You were supposed to be able to type in a question that would be answered- never seemed to work. The last time I couldn't even get the website to work.

rested gal wrote:
I'll skip making the call, then. Will just do what Gary mentioned, if Dr. Park puts up a link to it after the teleseminar is over:

GaryG wrote:As I recall I think there is a web link so even if you're out of area you should be able to hear it on the internet. I've done this in the past with a few of his calls - just listened on the internet. Can't call in a question but can listen (while you surf cpaptalk.com).

GaryG wrote:Now for tomorrow's call I don't see a web link. Darn.

Dr. Park has started charging for downloads after the phone conference. An MP3 audio redording is $17. Here is an example in which Dr. Li is interviewed about MMa procedure - http://doctorstevenpark.com/mmasurgeryli

rooster wrote: . . . Dr. Park has started charging for downloads after the phone conference. An MP3 audio redording is $17. . . .

Rooster,

If that is the case, I will never again hear any MP3s of his phone conferences. On principle. I'm funny that way.

In fact, I might even consider using my report-spam button on the next post advertising a teleseminar. I might only be able to do it once, but it would be worth it.

jeff

It's pure principle with me.........you advertise a "free" teleseminar, and then give me the fees if I really want to listen--he's just trying to reel me in and I don't want to play.......it detracts from his image and makes one question his motives. Basically he used our board for free advertising........

Unfortunately it's about the almightly dollar.

scrapper wrote:It's pure principle with me.........you advertise a "free" teleseminar, and then give me the fees if I really want to listen--he's just trying to reel me in and I don't want to play.......it detracts from his image and makes one question his motives. Basically he used our board for free advertising........

Unfortunately it's about the almightly dollar.

As I understand it, it is a completely free teleseminar, but without a toll-free number. That I don't mind. I'm fully on board with that concept. I just won't schedule my life around hearing it.

If it is on something I'm interested in, I might listen to the MP3 of the seminar after the fact. But, personally, I would not pay to do that, because, to my own way of thinking (which I admit can be nonstandard), there is no need to charge for a Web-based MP3 of a free teleseminar. Either post if for free or don't post it. Storage and bandwidth aren't that expensive these days.

That is only my personal position on it. I respect other takes on it. And there may be something that I, rooster, or others do not understand about it all.

jeff

BleepingBeauty wrote:Dr. Park discourages call-ins via cellphone, and my home phone doesn't have a long-distance plan on it. So I'm SOL.

How do you know he discourages calls via cell phone? That was what I was going to use. And by "discourages" do you mean we CAN'T do it? Why would he care what kind of phone we use?!

Now I see an email from him that arrived in my junk mail. It says: First, I'd recommend calling in a few minutes early. Next, call in using a land line phone as cell phones or hands-free lines usually result in poor sound quality. And finally, have a pen and paper handy so that you don't miss out any of this important information.

So I'm not sure that you CAN'T call from a cell phone. You could try and see if the sound quality is OK.

SleepingUgly wrote:How do you know he discourages calls via cell phone? That was what I was going to use. And by "discourages" do you mean we CAN'T do it? Why would he care what kind of phone we use?!