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Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:18 am
by Autopapdude
erybody is getting a flat-screen TV.'
YOU MEAN they're not getting flat screen TVs? Horrors! lolololol

Yes, I am definitely willing to back off, if he wants to back off as well, that would be great. If not, I will just continue to post, and be as polite as possible. That is all I can do. I'd rather have a peace offering now, so let's see.



By the way, my experiment with cpap vs apap didn't go well--the third straight night that my AHI was over 3, with titration pressure (11) on my autopap set as cpap. My AHI is normally .8 to 1.3 or so--I am going back to autopap set at 8.5-13.5. So, different strokes for different folks. MY average pressure on autopap is between 8 and 10 at the 90-95% level.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP--Day 3 results

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:33 am
by DreamOn
KatieW wrote:Actually, I was thinking that I could reduce towards 9, but am in no hurry to do so.
I don't think we need to be in any hurry to make changes. It takes a while to see if results of changes are consistent, and we're probably going to be using CPAP for the rest of our lives so (hopefully) there's plenty of time for experimentation. Someday, it'd be interesting to see if your results (the "numbers" and how you feel) would be any different for you at 9, or even 8 or 7.
I am so grateful for this forum, it really has been my life-line.
I'm very thankful to have found this forum too. It is really my biggest source of support on this CPAP journey.
Tonight we have a house guest, and he had his Elite II in his suitcase. I asked him if he had a data card, or checks the LED data. Turns out it's not Smart Card enabled....well, I fixed that!
So, did your house guest get to see his results in the software today? If so, I bet he will be using that at home now! How nice that he has someone to show him the ropes hands-on!

~ DreamOn

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:42 am
by carbonman
jnk wrote: @carbonman--I consider any link posted by -SWS to be required reading, myself, and also for you, the leader of our hoserhood. We (or at least "I")expect you to be up on such things. ALWAYS!
jnk, I have come to the conclusion that this is, infact, not rocket science.
I administer and monitor my own therapy....with pretty basic knowledge.

I'm sure that there are many fine papers out there that can support any
conclusion that any one person chooses to champion.
I appreciate SWS' and everyones contributions to this forum.
I learned my lesson awhile ago from BBolton concerning "most, always, everybody....etc."
Thanks! Bill

I would much rather spend my energies organizing the unruly mobs,
passing out the torches/axes and
leading the pillage of the incompetent DME and sleep ctrs.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:47 am
by Sleepy Taz
[quote="carbonmanI would much rather spend my energies organizing the unruly mobs,
passing out the torches/axes and
leading the pillage of the incompetent DME and sleep ctrs.[/quote]

Great idea and I will get the tar and feathers

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:59 am
by DreamOn
Sleepy Taz wrote:
carbonman wrote:I would much rather spend my energies organizing the unruly mobs,
passing out the torches/axes and
leading the pillage of the incompetent DME and sleep ctrs.
Great idea and I will get the tar and feathers
You guys are hilarious!

Where's the meeting place? I want to be part of the unruly mob!

~ DreamOn

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:18 pm
by jnk
Point taken, carbonman.

For me, though, if I'm going to raise a torch for the cause of the need for DMEs (1) to provide the right machines and (2) to have better education of patients, I feel a personal responsibility to do everything I can (1) to collect the pertitent information about the machines myself and (2) to educate myself as patient on the details of the matters I expect the DMEs to know.

So, in my opinion, it might be good if we at least had printouts of those links in our back pockets so that at least we'll have something to hand our lawyers for them to give to the press, so my family will understand exactly why I'm on TV in cuffs again.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:23 pm
by Sleepy Taz
jnk wrote:So, in my opinion, it might be good if we at least had printouts of those links in our back pockets so that at least we'll have something to hand our lawyers for them to give to the press, so my family will understand exactly why I'm on TV in cuffs again.
If we hit them all at once the police will only be able to get some of us

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:37 pm
by carbonman
jnk wrote:Point taken, carbonman.

For me, though, if I'm going to raise a torch for the cause of the need for DMEs (1) to provide the right machines and (2) to have better education of patients, I feel a personal responsibility to do everything I can (1) to collect the pertitent information about the machines myself and (2) to educate myself as patient on the details of the matters I expect the DMEs to know.
That is all fine and good.....and very cerebral.

The pillage and burning still appeals more to my liking,
as it only requires a basic skill set to accomplish the goal....
and generally at that point we are not concerned whether
you agree or disagree.....the intellectual discussion is over.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:41 pm
by jnk
carbonman wrote:
jnk wrote:Point taken, carbonman.

For me, though, if I'm going to raise a torch for the cause of the need for DMEs (1) to provide the right machines and (2) to have better education of patients, I feel a personal responsibility to do everything I can (1) to collect the pertitent information about the machines myself and (2) to educate myself as patient on the details of the matters I expect the DMEs to know.
That is all fine and good.....and very cerebral.

The pillage and burning still appeals more to my liking,
as it only requires a basic skill set to accomplish the goal....
and generally at that point we are not concerned whether
you agree or disagree.....the intellectual discussion is over.
Yes, sir.

All that I ask is that before I follow you into the riot, please take the little mirror off the side of your head, OK? or else all the rioters will want one.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:12 pm
by -SWS
That's right, carbonman.

When it comes to burning, pillaging, and social uprising in general... JUST DO IT! Don't sweat the details.

Can I have one of those mirrors? Will they at least be standard issue?

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:24 pm
by jnk
-SWS wrote: . . .Can I have one of those mirrors? Will they at least be standard issue?
Well, in hindsight, I'm thinking maybe it would have been better if I'd had a rearview mirror to help me look ahead to the details.


Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:23 pm
by Sleepy Taz
Just in; Strange man in black suit with mirror attached to riding Helmut leads thousands in attacks against alleged devious DME suppliers and health insurance companies. Reports of cats, monkeys, and various strange beings forcing a new policy of issuing data capable machines only and training of self dosing are unconfirmed. It is recommended that normal people should stay in their homes for their own protection. President Obama is recalling all overseas military to put down the riot. Details at 11.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP--Day 3 results

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:28 pm
by KatieW
Tonight we have a house guest, and he had his Elite II in his suitcase. I asked him if he had a data card, or checks the LED data. Turns out it's not Smart Card enabled....well, I fixed that!
So, did your house guest get to see his results in the software today? If so, I bet he will be using that at home now! How nice that he has someone to show him the ropes hands-on!

~ DreamOn[/quote]

Yes, he found his data card in his Resmed bag, so we downloaded all his data onto my laptop. He was fascinated. We discovered his monthly average AHI has been around 5, but in the past few days, the leaks are way up, and his AHI last night was 15. He realized that he is getting a leak from the elbow of his mask, and is going to replace it asap. He's also got a shopping list now--papcap, heated hose, card reader, software. It was fun to help him.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:09 pm
by carbonman
Sleepy Taz wrote:Just in; Strange man in black suit

STRANGE..................
and heavily medicated ................for your protection.

Katie, sorry to hijack your thread.
You're a trooper to just rock-on.

....but this cpap is serious business and when cpap jocularity happens....
'ya just got'a go with it.

Re: I switched from APAP to CPAP

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:08 pm
by KatieW
carbonman wrote:
Sleepy Taz wrote:Just in; Strange man in black suit

STRANGE..................
and heavily medicated ................for your protection.

Katie, sorry to hijack your thread.
You're a trooper to just rock-on.

....but this cpap is serious business and when cpap jocularity happens....
'ya just got'a go with it.
Can't argue with cpap jocularity

Besides, I have nothing else to say on the original topic.