AHI keeps going up, not down.....

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Re: AHI keeps going up, not down.....

Post by Wulfman » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:59 am

sierragail wrote:Last night was my 20th night with the cpap. I started out this hose-trip adventure with a big bang~~~felt like I was 10 years younger! Sleeping like a rock at night! Waking up all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed! My AHI at sea level with the machine was 1.5! Things were great!

Now I'm back home, at 8,000 feet, and things seem to be going downhill. The last 3 nights I've gone from AHI of 4.9 to 6.8 to 8.4 (last night). I've had PB of 1% as well.

I talked to my doc 3 days ago. He said things sounded okay to him (?). He recommended I try my Ativan or Ambien again. I don't like those meds. The whole idea of sleeping with a cpap, to me, was to get away from the meds and do some real sleeping for the first time in decades.

I took 1 mg of Ativan last night to see if that would help with the PB bc I read an article online that showed Temazepam as effective against PB at high altitudes, but I actually slept worse than the night before.

My pressure is set to vary from 9 to 11. 90% has been at 10.5. Last night the 90% was 10. I'm kind of baffled by it all and don't know what to think. I don't go back until January for a re-check. In the meantime, my socks are dragging the ground again, in the words of Earl Long. What a drag!

This machine is supposed to adjust for 8,000 feet. Now I"m wondering if maybe the DME doesn't know what he's talking about?

Anyone out there have any thoughts on my situation?

Out of curiosity, what was the altitude where you were titrated?

If it were me, I'd be raising the minimum pressure and either setting the maximum pressure higher or go with CPAP mode.
Without the software, you don't know what's happening during the night. My opinion is that trying to use an Auto in a range of pressures without the software is like shooting in the dark.

Most data-capable machines are SUPPOSED to compensate for altitude, but there is also an accuracy factor with the air pressure delivery of plus or minus 1.0 cm.

If you increase your pressure and your numbers keep going down, you know you're going in the right direction.


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Re: AHI keeps going up, not down.....

Post by sierragail » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:20 pm

Hi Wulfman,
I just this second checked my data for last night!
AHI was 5.2
PB none
90% at 10.5.
The night before:
AHI was 8.4
PB 1%
90% at 10.

I was titrated at sea level. I did tell them that I live at 8,000 ft. It seemed just more or less like conversational junk to them, but they did say this machine would automatically adjust for altitude changes. In other words, there's nothing I'm supposed to do to it. I

Of course, they don't know I'm going into provider mode to get my daily stats out. The good folks here on this forum taught me how to do that, and a big big thanks to all for that info.

Although last night was a bit better, maybe it's cause I took 1 mg of Ativan at 11pm and at 3am I took 10 mg of Ambien? Who knows, right? I don't like to do this, and there has to be a better way. The sleep doctor, well it doesn't seem to matter to him, he's the one who told me to take them.

But others have also suggested that I go straight cpap mode and not use the apap mode. I'm up for that, and tonight I will try it.

I'm also going to town today and buy some Diamox for a trial run.
Thanks, gail

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Re: AHI keeps going up, not down.....

Post by Wulfman » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:33 pm

I would try CPAP mode at 10 or 11. Then, depending on the results (for a few nights) gradually move it up. If the numbers get better, you know you're going in the right direction.

Good luck.


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Re: AHI keeps going up, not down.....

Post by sierragail » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:52 pm

I'll try that, and let you know. Thanks!

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Re: AHI keeps going up, not down.....

Post by cv66er » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:01 pm

sierragail wrote:I have a finger pulse ox, but it doesn't have memory function, it just shows current O2 saturation.
Point a video camera at the PulseOx?

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Re: AHI keeps going up, not down.....

Post by sierragail » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:21 pm

Don't have a video camera....

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