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Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:26 pm
by roster
LinkC wrote:
Snorebert wrote: Of course, anyone on Medicare already does!
Exactly! And look what a rousing success Medicare is! Those bozos can't even run "Cash for Clunkers" successfully!


So for nearly 40 years I have been buying fuel-efficient vehicles and now I (and my kids) have to pay for other's clunkers?

That's government: Reward people who made poor choices and financially punish those who have been making good choices. !@#$#%^&@!

I am still waiting for the rollout of Cash for Cluckers.

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:40 pm
by rws
What happens to all those clunkers?? Are they crushed, or, end up back on the street after the used car dealer makes a few bucks??

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:09 pm
by roster
They are supposed to be crushed. I wonder how are Feds are making sure that happens?

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:19 pm
by Snorebert
It's being overseen by DMEs because of their excellent followthrough.

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:25 pm
by rws
rooster wrote:They are supposed to be crushed. I wonder how are Feds are making sure that happens?

Maybe Obama need to create the Department of Crushery.... not to be confused with Treasury??

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:32 pm
by LinkC
rooster wrote: I wonder how are Feds are making sure that happens?
I'm guessing the huge backlog of UNPAID dealer claims probably isn't helping...


(And we'll know ObamaCare isn't working when they announce a "Cash for Geezers" program! )

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:37 pm
by LinkC
rooster wrote:
That's government: Reward people who made poor choices and financially punish those who have been making good choices. !@#$#%^&@!
Nope! That's socialism. And it isn't our "government" yet...

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:46 pm
by roster
Crushing cars made me think of Roosevelt.
Another brilliant New Deal creation was the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA), and its goal was once again to prop up prices. The AAA adopted a domestic allotment plan under which the Secretary of Agriculture rented plots of land from farmers and plowed under the crops that had been planted there. In addition, "surplus" crops and livestock were destroyed. Farmers and producers of agricultural products were paid not to produce. Flynn writes:

It was a crime against our civilization to pay farmers in two years $700,000,000 to destroy crops and limit production. It was a shocking thing to see the government pay one big sugar corporation over $1,000,000 not to produce sugar. (Flynn, p. 49)
What little knowledge I have about what life was like during the Great Depression I gleaned from John Steinbeck's novel, The Grapes of Wrath. And even in high school, when I first learned about the magnificent New Deal and the man who rescued America from the grips of the Great Depression, I knew that there was something terribly wrong with burning crops and killing pigs at a time when people had to eat fried dough for sustenance.

...............

The effect of such a bureaucratic scheme of centralized economic planning was to further cripple the economy. The NRA regulations themselves were lunacy. Flynn writes:


A tailor named Jack Magid in New Jersey was arrested, convicted, fined and sent to jail. The crime was that he had pressed a suit of clothes for 35 cents when the Tailors' Code fixed the price at 45 cents. (Flynn, p. 44)
Thus, at a time when nearly a quarter of the population was unemployed, the NRA created artificial shortages in commercial products, while the AAA created artificial shortages in agricultural goods, all in the name of combating price deflation.

In view of FDR's accomplishments, all of which prolonged and worsened the Great Depression, we can only hope that Obama does not actually attempt to emulate FDR. So far, it looks like Obama is going to try to spend his way out of the depression. That will not work. In May of 1939, FDR's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau wrote in his diary:


We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. . . . We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started. And enormous debt to boot.
The repercussions of Obama's economic policy are yet to be seen, but one thing is for certain -- his administration will not do the one thing that a government can do to allow the economy to recover as quickly as possible: refrain from doing anything. This would mean cutting back government spending, regulating, inflating and taxing.


http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=9

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:08 pm
by WearyOne
BlackSpinner wrote: So paranoid.
And some people are way too trusting.
BlackSpinner wrote:We don't need Utopia, We need a system that works effectively for the majority at a cost we can afford.
So true. But how can anyone think the government is the answer, with their track record???

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:07 pm
by DreamStalker
Well true I guess ... the US government only has about a 2 and a quarter century track record. The only other government in existance today with a longer track record would be the United Kingdom ... oh wait, that's a (wait for it) ............... socialist government.

Booo! ... are you scared yet?

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:38 pm
by WearyOne
The track record of our government when involved with social issues---Social Security, Welfare, Medicare--just to name a few, hasn't worked out so well, now has it? Or do some people actually think these programs are run efficiently and correctly?

Pam

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:09 pm
by DreamStalker
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler to involve with social issues
The bailouts and tax cuts of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of fear mongers,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
our government and the thousand programs run
Efficiently or correctly or not, 'tis a consumption
Devoutly to be live'd. Or to die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of air what dreams may come
Where fear of the unknown knowns that we know
We do not know because a black man is to be feared
To be, or not to be: that is the question:

Re: OT: Would you trust your health info to Google?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:38 pm
by Muse-Inc
Quite nice DreamStalker, quite nice indeed!!!