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tattooyu wrote:...read the first sentence...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_citrate

Read this part:

...consumption of approximately 2000 mg of elemental magnesium per single dose. Given that this laxative dose contains 6 times the normal nutritional dose for magnesium...

Men need about 240 mgs/day and women about 300 mgms from food, water, and supplements. I take 800 mgs/day which works for my particular set of symptoms and my serum tests show it's high normal now. The Solgar ones I take are 200 mgs/tablet.

BlackSpinner wrote:At the prices you guys pay I would expect it to be over nite expressed while playing the star spangled banner.

I am so hoping that CPAP will improve my cholesterol. I was only tiny bit high for total and tiny bit on the LDL.
I will find out in November with 6 months of therapy under my belt.

I don't know that CPAP changed mine. I am on a statin and the numbers were still high 4 months ago. I started taking a supplement called Greens to Go on the advice of a colleague whose cholestrol dropped 60 points and my cholesterol dropped like a stone. The only thing different was the supplement. I don't have all the numbers here but it was a pretty significant difference. Several people at work were interested in it because they were considering the supplement, too. I have been on CPAP since Oct 08.

I am not convinced that CPAP is the factor which helped.

My results of my first test since starting CPAP are in. All i remember prior to these results is having a total cholesterol in the 260's.

Cholesterol Total 228
Triglycerides 149
HDL 60
VLDL 30
LDL 138

I'm not complaining at least they are looking a bit better

OSA disrupts the fine balance of your endocrine system throwing off your levels of testosterone, human growth hormone, cortisol, leptin, insulin, and glucogon, which in turn affect your steroidal and thyroidal hormone levels. That is why OSA is correlated to so many other comorbidities like CVD, metabolic syndrome/diabetes, obesity, and depression.

As aerobic organisms, a lack of oxygen simply is NOT good for us.

Hi I am new here so thought I would comment on your message cause it caught my eye first thing. Cause last year before I was on my cpap machine my levels were total cholesterol 240 and now they are 180. My trigs are high now though. The doctor said exercise should bring those down and I go back in December.

charlambe wrote:...My trigs are high now though...

When you eat more carbs than your body can process, your TRIs go.

I do need to lighten up on carbs that is true. Is the trig related to sugar or anything? I dont have sugar but was considered pre diabetic last year but since then my sugar levels have been fine. But I do fear it cause both brothers are on meds now for sugar.

charlambe wrote:I do need to lighten up on carbs that is true. Is the trig related to sugar or anything? I dont have sugar but was considered pre diabetic last year but since then my sugar levels have been fine. But I do fear it cause both brothers are on meds now for sugar.

Welcome to forum charlambe.
I had my glucose and thyroid checked at the same time as my cholesterol and they were fine. I was trying to exercise more and do the Atkins low carb thing but i found i got the shakes sometimes during exercise. If I am doing a 12 mile bike ride in 110 degree heat then I need to take energy supplements that contain good carbs to avoid getting the shakes.
Its difficult trying to figure out an ideal balance

First thing you need to do to reduce your carb intake is to stop eating out and stop eating pre-processed foods (stuff that comes in a box or bag) and start eating fresh (preferably organic) foods that you find on the outer edges of your super market.

The corporate/industrial food prcessing business profits on providing you "cheap" food (carbs laden with unhealthy fats and salt) knowing that it is addictive just like cigarettes and will make you crave more the more you eat. They care only about their profits ... not your health or well being regardless of the healthy statements they print on the box or bag.

Uncle_Bob wrote:

charlambe wrote:I do need to lighten up on carbs that is true. Is the trig related to sugar or anything? I dont have sugar but was considered pre diabetic last year but since then my sugar levels have been fine. But I do fear it cause both brothers are on meds now for sugar.

Welcome to forum charlambe.
I had my glucose and thyroid checked at the same time as my cholesterol and they were fine. I was trying to exercise more and do the Atkins low carb thing but i found i got the shakes sometimes during exercise. If I am doing a 12 mile bike ride in 110 degree heat then I need to take energy supplements that contain good carbs to avoid getting the shakes.
Its difficult trying to figure out an ideal balance

If you exercise frequently, you are likely not insulin resistant and therefore consuming "healthy" carbs is not an issue for you.

Limiting carbs is generally advised (or should be) for obese and/or insulin resistant/type-2-diabetic people who may not exercise enough.

charlambe wrote:I do need to lighten up on carbs that is true. Is the trig related to sugar or anything? I dont have sugar but was considered pre diabetic last year but since then my sugar levels have been fine. But I do fear it cause both brothers are on meds now for sugar.

TriGLYCERIDE...the glyceride tips you off that this is sugar, so yeah, it's related. Something like 58% of diabetics have apnea. Within 5 yrs of apnea diagnosis, a large percentage of folks will become diabetic. In my mind, diabetes is genetic or you killed too many insulin-producing beta cells by eating a lousy diet or getting one of the bugs that damages them -- so if ya got diabetic genes, start exercising & drop carbs to get good glycemic control now (an lower your insulin requirements to reduce stress on those remaining beta cells) before those 5 yrs go by, all those diabetic genes get triggered, and shazam you're diabetic.

If you're already pre-diabetic, might ask your doc about starting a low dose of metformin extened release (this form is less likely to cause digestive upset) as it's extremely helpful esp with a diagnosis of apnea: for one, it bridges a genetic defect that 'forgets' to signal the liver to stop making sugar as insulin levels rise following consumption of carbs...the liver just happily churns out sugar as blood sugar levels sky rocket, it's heart and blood vessel protective, it mildly reduces appetite...all good things.

I remember seeing some study that links AHI and cholesterol levels:

http://www.erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/cont ... l/27/1/121

"An independent relationship was found between the change of apnoea–hypopnoea index and the change of high-density lipoprotein cholesterol or triglycerides, respectively. All patients with abnormal serum lipid/lipoprotein levels improved significantly under bilevel or continuous positive airway pressure therapy. This study demonstrates an influence of obstructive sleep apnoea and its therapy on high-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels."