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Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:59 pm
by elader
carbonman wrote:carbonman wrote:jules wrote:It's a POS
...uh-ho....is this another scientific term??
Just curious.
carbonman wrote:apnez wrote:It is FDA approved.
I know this isn't a scientific term.
As I think about this, if my understanding of POS is correct,
I have heard those two acronyms used together....
sometimes the former to describe the latter.
I could be mistaken though.....just thinking out loud.
Dude, the thin air in the mountains must be getting to you.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:03 pm
by elader
elg5cats wrote: Anyway, using military time, set the recording time to the time you wish to begin your recording........like 2300 for 11:00pm. There's no end time to recording unless your battery goes dead or you sleep more than 24 hours (my dream nap!!!!) I charge mine each night by computer......seems to charge better via computer than outlet.
elg5cats.
Wait, the time' i am setting is not the number of hours to record, but the time it starts recording? there's a clock in the thing? Damn, I better read the manual.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:16 pm
by apnez
I found no clock! And there should be one!
The time setting refers only to the start time of the recording.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:55 pm
by elg5cats
[quote] better read the manual
Not sure you will find the manual that helpful. It's not translated to English very well. I found trial and error to be a better learning experience.
The little gadget does have an interal clock........don't forget the alarm option on the menu......if you turn on the alarm, it'll even wake you up if you toss it of your finger.
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Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:08 pm
by robertmarilyn
elg5cats wrote: better read the manual
Not sure you will find the manual that helpful. It's not translated to English very well. I found trial and error to be a better learning experience.
The little gadget does have an interal clock........don't forget the alarm option on the menu......if you turn on the alarm, it'll even wake you up if you toss it of your finger.
| elg5cats
Yes, that manual's native language doesn't seem to be English
I have spent weeks trying to figure out what your avatar was...I was pretty sure it was a cat and maybe a quilt or something but it was like some big inkblot that I couldn't make into anything real. Finally, just now, the two eyes popped out at me and I could see the cat's face.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:16 pm
by elg5cats
Finally, just now, the two eyes popped out at me and I could see the cat's face.
LOL!!!!!! That gave me a laugh. That's KoKo my best kitty ever!!!!! KoKo had a favorite blanket from kittenhood. As she aged to 17.5 the blanket became ragged. She would get under the blanket and play througb the holes in it. I just happen to have the camera nearby when she was awaiting to play. I lost my best feline friend ever, almost 2 years ago, but she left behind great meemories and photos!!!!!
elg5cats
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:47 pm
by feeling_better
[quote="elader"Wait, the time' i am setting is not the number of hours to record, but the time it starts recording? there's a clock in the thing? Damn, I better read the manual.[/quote]
It does not have a clock, but a time keeper. So you set the current time when you start, and it keeps track of elpased time, and will show that in the graphs. When you look at the data, you move the graph starting time to line up with the cpap data for that time; then you can correlate the spo2 reading with the cpap events. Yes, they should have put a clock in there to avoid this hassle of setting the start time every time we use it.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:28 am
by ca_hosehead
elader wrote:Those of you with this thing - you set recording for 10 hours, sleep with it, then switch to 'upload' and connect to the computer?
its awfully cute. If i hold my breath, I can't seem to make the spO2 drop....
Your summary is essentially correct. Remember that you have only one session of data. I have accidentally restarted recording which wipes the night's data. You can play with it and do a couple of 10 minute sessions.
I have been able to get the ox level a little under 90% if I hold by breath. Any more than that and I HAVE to breathe.
I have had good luck with mine, no problems. The clock does drift though, not very accurate.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:40 am
by elader
OK, I taped it to my finger last night. Uploading the data this morning was uh... weird and exciting. Seems the driver that windows installed screwed up my mouse a bit. But it worked in the end. Saw some heart rates flagged by the software, but typically these were drops in heart rate by a few bpm. It saw one true desat from 97% to 91% - still not below the 90% threshold. It says it was 14 seconds, which is the typical length of one of my apneas that the M series logs. I will look to see if this matches an event that my machine recorded. As my AI is usually 2-4, this seems rather a low number of events to have logged over a night.
I did (for fun) take off the mask at 6AM and doze for 30 minutes without cpap. The heart and SPO2 were noticeably much more variable (but 02 still not below 90%) - I don't know if its due to me being semi awake, but I am not going to spend a night without cpap just to try it out
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:27 am
by JoyD.
Elader wrote:
It saw one true desat from 97% to 91% - still not below the 90% threshold. It says it was 14 seconds, which is the typical length of one of my apneas that the M series logs.
Elader,
How do you determine the length of your apneas from the M Series data? I see in the chart on p. 12, that it gives the "average time in apnea" (I assume that's per night). Right? I'm not very good in math . . . how do you figure out the length of your apneas from that?
Thanks, Joy
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:46 am
by elader
sorry, the length of the apneas comes from aftermarket software. I forgot what it's called. But it shows length of time in apnea.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:59 am
by mdbarthe
After reading some of the posts here, I feel pretty lucky. My CMS-50E works like a charm and I haven't had a single problem with it. My readings tend to hit lows of 83-88% in the SPO2 category, but I seldom spend much time there. When I compare it to my ResScan data, I can usually line them up pretty closely. Most nights I am 90% or above for the majority of the night.
The only problem I had with the unit was not a malfunction of the device but rather the crappy instructions that came with it. It took me two nights to figure out I had to enter the 24 hour time in the recording mode and not how long I wanted it to run.
Device and software works as designed and promised for me.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:03 am
by carbonman
elader wrote:
Dude, the thin air in the mountains must be getting to you.
I'm blaming it on all the oxygen I get at night.
It's this cpap....ah...stuff.
My brain is coming back to life....after who knows how many years...
...and...and....these thoughts, dreams, schemes and weird.....ah stuff, just flows out...
ah...so to speak.
I don't seem to be able to control it.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:10 pm
by Arizona-Willie
My CMS 50-E worked ok for quite awhile.
Then, somehow the back broke and came off.
There are some tiny plastic gizmatchies that hold it on and one of those broke.
I didn't remember doing it but I must have rolled over on it or something. Although you would expect it to just sink into the Tempurpedic mattress.
But I just put a rubber band around it and it works just as well as it ever did.
But I did upgrade to the F model that you wear like a watch.
Re: Help for the CMS50E oximeter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:22 pm
by spitintheocean
For Sale: VCR (made in China) damned thing keeps flashing 12:00 and can't seem to record an entire TV show when I press the "Qwik REC" button only once!
My CMSS50-F oximeter has the same technology and I understand uses the same software but is the wristwatch type versus the "clothespin" model. It works seamlessly and provides me with reporting as detailed as minute by minute using the internal clock so I know exactly how I respond at 4:30 AM when I roll over on my back versus 11:15 on my side.
It makes me wonder how many of our members are driving around with the clocks in their vehicles out by an hour because of failure to adjust for daylight savings time.