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That is an amazing amount of research into fragrances. Since fragrances are present pretty much everywhere (except maybe outer space) I don't think I'll ever inhale again as long as I live ...

DreamStalker wrote:That is an amazing amount of research into fragrances. Since fragrances are present pretty much everywhere (except maybe outer space) I don't think I'll ever inhale again as long as I live ...

I know there, DS, it's like once you start, you can't stop! Some of the motivation comes from the frustration with how the U.S. fragrance industry is able to keep all this information hidden from the consumer, and the opportunity to correct some of this with FDAG09 looks like it will be lost.

Self-policing, indeed!

Coming up soon, starting at maybe 250 or 260, will be a discussion on these statements:

SleepGuy wrote:I figure that my personal exposure to the fragrance oils in Downy is pretty much 24/7, or 8760 hours a year.

And that would be direct dermal as well as "inhalation therapy."

Funny that I don't see much worry about Downy--couldn't even find mention on their whole website about safety of their fragrances. They're not even regulated as cosmetics despite the direct dermal exposure....

which were just so FS that I figured it was some sort of a set-up, and kind of avoided them.

However, no matter, you can't talk about fabric softeners without including the Tragic Story of Julia Kendall, so even though I can't imagine people using Downy as Inhalation Therapy for CPAP Desensitization, I think we should spend a little time there.

SAG

I am not a "fragrance guy" and generally don't want any flowery smelling stuff around me. I buy unscented deodorants and stay away from soaps, shampoos and aftershave which have anything smelly in them. My wife also doesn't like fragrances although she will light a smelly candle after dinner when I have stir fried something spicy indoors in the wok.

But I will say what we seem to be getting down to now is chemophobia. I have a lot of thoughts on that but here's just one for this morning. Someone has plotted the production in tons of synthetic organic chemicals in the U.S. from 1950 on a simple line graph. Starting in the fifties there has been a huge growth in tonnage (and the number of different chemicals). Now some smart guy plotted the average life expectancy on the same graph. Well you know what, as chemical production increased, so did life expectancy. Are we afraid of our shadow?

rooster wrote:But I will say what we seem to be getting down to now is chemophobia. I have a lot of thoughts on that but here's just one for this morning. Someone has plotted the production in tons of synthetic organic chemicals in the U.S. from 1950 on a simple line graph. Starting in the fifties there has been a huge growth in tonnage (and the number of different chemicals). Now some smart guy plotted the average life expectancy on the same graph. Well you know what, as chemical production increased, so did life expectancy. Are we afraid of our shadow?

Increase in life expectancy since 1950 can be explained by a number of other factors, most notably antibiotics.

But give it time, MRSA and VRSA should start to turn the tide.

When talking about fragrance inhalation, I think this is the graph you need to look at:



SAG

Just bought a 2.5oz spray bottle of Z-14 for $15 .

They are both probably made in the same vat.

Halston Z-14 Jeff Gordon Signature Cologne for Men $14.86


Z-14 Plastic Magic Cleaner & Polish $12.95

Same bottle I got at wally mart without the special box. I used to wear Z-14 deodorant when I met my wife - great smell there - B.O. plus Z-14 . Bad for staining the white dress shirts and t-shirts. I had more money back then and it was about $15 a bottle.

What causes asthma?

rooster wrote:What causes asthma?

Just asth-gramma and asth-grandpa. Perhaps they'll have a feint clue how asthma came about.

rooster wrote:What causes asthma?

Cold air.

Tobacco smoke and wood smoke.

Perfume, paint, hair spray, or any strong odors or fumes.

Allergens (particles that cause allergies) such as dust mites, pollen, molds, pollution, and animal dander (which are tiny scales or particles that fall off hair, feathers or skin) from any pets.

Common cold, influenza, and other respiratory illnesses.

SAG

StillAnotherGuest wrote: Allergens (particles that cause allergies) such as dust mites, pollen, molds, pollution, and animal dander (which are tiny scales or particles that fall off hair, feathers or skin) from any pets.
SAG

Mine's caused by allergies if I don't take my meds.....only things on this list I seem to be allergic to is pollution and pollen.
Grass, weeds and trees -- tis the season!!!!! Even with my meds, I've been miserable for the past few days - Things are blooming big time here in the Sierras.....
I do notice that when I burn some incense I don't seem to have the same allergic problems.....It's almost like it goes away for a while....I don't have adverse reactions to any fragrances that I'm aware of, so I use 'em.....There are some I don't particularly care for, but fragrance has always been a part of my life and always will be.....(It's one of the reasons I grow flowers!!!!)
I didn't have allergies at all before Uncle Sam sent me to Agent Orange land....

cheers
goose

goose wrote:I didn't have allergies at all before Uncle Sam sent me to Agent Orange land....

And yet, interestingly, 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzodioxin is not on the list of 26 banned substances by the European Union Directive 2003/15/EC.


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